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Arbo
11-08-2004, 08:02 PM
Who's using the 440/880 pound electric hoist from HF? I have been thinking about getting one, but would like to hear from you guys first. What's the good/bad/ugly on them. And pics of your mounting set-up would be great.

CCWKen
11-08-2004, 08:15 PM
HF had them on sale a while back. They may be on sale again. I took a look at them in the store. I wasn't convinced of the load capacity. The only thing holding the motor to the mount was two small screws and the spool shaft. The motor housing is aluminum. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//frown.gif

I've been waiting for the 1300lb. unit to go for $100. It came close once at $109. The screws are larger but same design.

BWS
11-08-2004, 10:03 PM
Just so happened to see one implode today.It "was" the HF $69 unit.Some friends were using it to haul 2-5g buckets of mortor in a wooden crate of sorts up/down 40' at a time.Probably 150 # or so.Think they'd been at it for a week or so.They're doin a real complicated chimney.Anyhow,as I stood there yappin it sort of melted to a screeching halt.More than likely it was due to them adding cable and runnin the poor thing for long periods.Believe one of them said it started acting up yesterday.The thing was new for this job.They were heading back to HF for a trade-in.YMMV.

MikeHenry
11-09-2004, 12:06 AM
I'm pretty sure that's the one I bough a while back to assist with a machine move down to the basement shop.

Pics of my application for it are here:

http://member.newsguy.com/~mphenry/base_move.htm

I've never used a hoist before so am not the best judge of quality but it seemed to work OK so far as I could tell.

Normally I wouldn't even have considered something like this from HF but they have a local store (eas to return if junk or DOA)and the price was much cheaper than riggers would have been for the same job ($1,200). I made sure to keep every one out of the way of the load and well away from the cable should it have snapped or come loose.

Mike

ibewgypsie
11-09-2004, 12:53 AM
I don't know about the electric ones, but I have had 2 tons hanging from a one ton chinese hoist fro Harbor freight.

I got a good one.

David

JRouche
11-09-2004, 01:17 AM
Yep, got one.

While I was building my car I needed to put it on the driveway a few times. The car didn't have an engine yet and the driveway has a grade to it.

So I bought the winch, adjusted it with some straps and a pipe. I drilled a hole in my garage floor then put a 2" square pipe in it. I filled the gaps around the pipe with concrete.

I slip the pipe attached to the winch into the floor pipe, it is about 12" deep. I can push the car down the driveway and winch it back into the garage. What a back saver.

The only thing I dont like that much is the speed, it seems pretty quick. You can slow it down by doubling up the cable and using the supplied pulley, it also increases your pulling power. JRouche

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/Jrouche/winch1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/Jrouche/winch2.jpg

[This message has been edited by JRouche (edited 11-09-2004).]

chardy
11-09-2004, 09:30 PM
I bought the 880lbs. model,I don't expect to go to that limit,only 200 or so.My anvils and manderals weigh close to that,my back doesn't need to pick up even 80 lbs any more.I mounted the unit on a overhead door rail and tripled the fastening clamps.It does the job,it does work abit fast and some what jerky ,I need to use it more to get used to its moods.
Dick Stack-Hillsdale Art Metal

spkrman15
11-09-2004, 10:12 PM
Hey JRouche,

that is a pretty slick car. What is it you are building?

Rob http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

jfsmith
11-10-2004, 12:33 AM
I use the engine hoist for heavy things. HF is great for some things, but the electric hoist is not on my list at the moment. I am waiting to build my new shop building before thinking about thsoe things. I need more overhead strength than I have now to handle the hoist and then I would put in a rail system to make the hoist really useful.

Jerry

JRouche
11-10-2004, 07:06 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by spkrman15:
Hey JRouche,
that is a pretty slick car. What is it you are building?
Rob http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif</font>

Hey, that's my baby. It's a '62 chevy Nova. Basically I replaced everything except the "outer skin". The entire floor, frame, front and rear suspension, electrical, brakes, fuel and drive train. Still a work in progress but it's fun. JRouche

Alistair Hosie
11-10-2004, 12:09 PM
I have a 250kg one above my lathe for the obvious heavy chucks etc.Alistair


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/tybachdai/guardforlatheandBoxfordshaper008.jpg

Ausserdog
11-10-2004, 02:17 PM
I've been using one of the 880# ones for about 4-5 months. Bolted it to my 4 post car lift to drag dead cars onto it. With the slope on the driveway (uphill to the garage) plus the lift on the ramps, it was impossible for one person to push a car on. It actually works pretty smoothly, unless the cable runs at too great of an angle and starts triping the safety shutoff. Have only used it in 'single line' (440#) mode. Works well for me - am really happy with it. Getting it on sale was a plus.
Tom

gundog
11-10-2004, 05:14 PM
OSHA requires manufacturers to down rate lifting equipment by either 3 or 5 times the rated breaking strength. I am not sure if these chinese hoists are rated the same way.
You can do damage to this type of equipment by over taxing the capabilities and it might show up later down the road. Be safe and don't get in the bite if she decides to go.

One more thought or two. Lifting hooks are designed to bend and not break when overloaded so if you see the hook is sprung it is or has been overloaded. Come along hoist handles are designed to bend before overloading the hoist. These statements apply to quality equipment again I am not sure about the Chinese stuff.
Mike

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neil f
11-10-2004, 06:38 PM
I used one of these hoists to make a corner swing-arm crane. Been using it for a couple of years now and wouldn't be without it. It only takes a few seconds to unship and use in other places, as some other posters are doing. I'm thinking of getting another for the other end of my (tiny by US standards) shop.

You can see it in detail on my website:
http://www.anf.nildram.co.uk/

-Neil F.

JRouche
11-10-2004, 08:34 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by neil f:
You can see it in detail on my website:
http://www.anf.nildram.co.uk/
-Neil F.</font>

Hey Neil F, real nice work on that Tom Senior. JRouche

neil f
11-12-2004, 12:30 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JRouche:
Hey Neil F, real nice work on that Tom Senior. JRouche

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Thanks JR. The irony is, I had to sell it straight after I'd finished rebuilding it because I'd already bought the larger model you can see on the site with a BP head grafted on. Now that one's in pieces and getting the 'treatment' too. With the line doubled, the hoist is capable of lifting the mill's main body with all its internals onto its stand, which is sited under the crane jib's swing.

Having got a bigger mill, I decided I was 'under-lathed', so the Myford S7 was sold to make way for a nice tight Harrison M300 13". Trouble is, it came with such heavy chucks/faceplate that I think another hoist would be handy to lift them on and off - rather like another poster here has demonstrated, although I think I'd run mine on a rail above the lathe and transfer the chucks down to a shelf above the tailstock end.

-Neil.

JRouche
11-12-2004, 12:52 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by neil f:
Trouble is, it came with such heavy chucks/faceplate that I think another hoist would be handy to lift them on and off - -Neil.</font>


I'm with you there. It goes on and on and on .....See with the heavier stuff now you need a heavier winch. So to lift the new winch you need to use the old winch, Hmmmm, on and on and...... JRouche


Kinda strayin but. My garage is getting so full it feels like I will get to the point where there will be 3x3 feet of clear floor in the center. With 6 feet stretching outward from the center, in all directions including upward from 6 feet packed with machines. I will be at the center of this universe, able to spin on my heels while throwing levers, spinning dials and crankin out "stuff". The noise would be tremendous, the electric meter would be smokin, my wife would be yellin and the neighbors will be callin (the cops). Oh yeah, kinda nightmarish, a little Willy Wonka, but man, what fun. Gotta drive abit to pick up a new drill press, wish me luck, it's heavy.