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ibewgypsie
11-14-2004, 06:07 PM
I got metal in my eye again, been there three days now.

Is there a home remedy? I am seeing a doctor anyways Tuesday.. It is not a rusty spot, I can't see it, It feels like a boulder thou.

Any good plans for electro-magnetic eye wash cups out there?

I had on saftey glasses, before I hear a sermon, It got in there out of my eyebrows in side the house.

David

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David Cofer, Of:
Tunnel Hill, North Georgia

kelamigo
11-14-2004, 06:18 PM
eye doctor...post haste! Don't rub it!!!

JRouche
11-14-2004, 06:22 PM
Is it stainless (bad-est) aluminum (almost as bad) or steel/iron (still bad). Go to doc tomorrow, shouldn't be a prob gettin in, tellem you got metal in yer eyes.

I had a piece of grindings in my eye (same thing with the brows, gonna shavem off some day) that I could not see, right in the front of the ball. So finally went to the eye doc and he had a nice video scope. He saw it, plucked it out with a thingy. Left a nice divit on my eye but it felt oh so much betta. JRouche

steyr556
11-14-2004, 06:49 PM
get a full face shield. Got a piece in my eye by grinding doc took out so I got me a pair of elastic strap type and guess what my hand slipped and wack right in the eye again and may I can't even tell you the pain from that!!! now I have a full face shield and well worth it!

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Mike Burdick
11-14-2004, 07:04 PM
Cures? Maybe...shave your eyebrows! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//frown.gif

Sometimes when I get something in my eye, my wife can usually get it out using the corner of a tissue and gently catching it on the end.

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CCWKen
11-14-2004, 08:00 PM
What happened to your safety glasses/goggles/shield? http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//confused.gif

Don't make me come up there and kick your ass!

tonydacrow
11-14-2004, 08:03 PM
Sulfuric Acid will desolve the metal quickly. Oh, wait. You want to keep the eye. Like kelamigo said. GO TO THE DOCTOR, NOW!

rollin45
11-14-2004, 08:14 PM
Feelin' for you Dave,

I've had metal in the eyes more times than I can count. I always use safety glasses and face shield, but it still manages to happen once in a while. I have taken it out myself on occasion, lucky mostly. Strong magnet sometimes, tissue sometimes, sometimes it will just wash out, but generally the bits are sharp and jagged, little fish hook affairs. If you can't get easily and it won't wash out overnight, you are stuck,, see the doc. Its usually pretty fast and painless. If you leave steel, or iron for any length of time it rusts, and this can cause some problems, they will want to drill out the rust. I still have a rusty spot or two as it didn't interfer with my vision,(that I can tell) but the best solution is go see the doc.
rollin'

ibewgypsie
11-14-2004, 08:38 PM
I have been eyeballing these solonoid coils.. hook it up on a higher voltage at a PWM and run it short periods of time.. Maybe affixed to the bottom of a wash cup..

OKAY.. I am going to the Doctor.. enough.. I got bushy eyebrows and a full head of hair.. such as it is with aboriginine ancestors *(cherokee)

Mayb vacuuming the eyebrows now too,?? I got his 4hp Genie shop vac that sounds like a 747 on takeoff.. it'll grabe a 5/8" nut off the floor and make it thunk when it hits the barrel.. I picked up my shop this morning. cleaned around the mill/lathe.

I got a HUGE snake in the 54 ford somewhere. I saw a piece of him as he coiled over the rear axle and it was as big as my leg (300 pound man here).. I sure would hate for him to take up residence in my shop.. Looked like a chicken snake black with white checkers, white belly... but butch sure backed up from it.. He has been sleeping next to the car and circles it constantly.. I keep waiting to see it sunning inside the car. Cool weather has hitten us.. My heat finally kicked on here in the house. Snake will be looking for warmer locales. And I am not sharing my shop.. Possibly it had a possum or other small creature in the section I saw.. it was huge.. and I am not exagerating in the least.. Maybe it will get the lil yapper dog from next door, it barks all night.. no dog house, no kennel, just chained to a tree.. perhaps as snake bait?

Maybe I should build a plexiglass box around my mill? I have two pieces large enough..



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David Cofer, Of:
Tunnel Hill, North Georgia

aboard_epsilon
11-14-2004, 08:41 PM
you have a camera ..lets see some pictures david ..of this snake.

Tim Mehner
11-14-2004, 09:02 PM
David, To put this nicely. Get your ass to the doctor, pronto!! I've had the "pleasure" of having metal in my eyes3 or 4 times. The last time it happened I kept trying to get it out myself. That turned out to be a big mistake. I screwed around all weekend with it and it had begun to rust and work it's way down into the iris of my eye really deep. It took 3 trips to the ER and finally 4 trips to the eye specialist to fix it. I damn near lost the vision in my right eye because I thought it would be OK. As they say "young, dumb,& full of cum". I learned my lesson the hard way. Oh yeah, it cost me almost $1500 in medical bills too!!

aboard_epsilon
11-14-2004, 09:11 PM
Makes me so glad we have the national health in our country.
all this umming and arghing ...should I do it myself etc......just does not happen here.
we just go strait to the eye unit of the nearest hospital and it's taken out for nothing .
best solution emigrate over here ....you will be well looked after David.

rockrat
11-14-2004, 09:15 PM
Had a buddy running a wire wheel get one of the wires in his eye. He told me that when he tried to pull it out, WARNING this gets a little nasty, his wife doing the pullin' could see the eye rise toward the motion of the pull. In other words, it was a little like a fish hook. Once in, it wernt coming out without a little something to show it had been there. Not good for the eye. So she stopped and they went to the doc. Who removed it in about 10 min and with little damage. He did say that if the wife had continued, there would have been major damage.

So go to the doctor or the urgent care at least! Dont piss around with it. Go.

Lets face facts, we would miss your posts if you couldnt read and type. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//eek.gif

PolskiFran
11-14-2004, 09:22 PM
David,
I've been in your situation before. A piece of metal dropped down from the underside of my baseball cap, behind the glasses and into my eye. I couldn't feel it right away. It was where the upper and lower eyelid meet. It would only bother me when I woke up in the morning. I didn't know what the problem was at the time. After 2 days I went to the doctor. He put drops in my eye to show what was there. He could not pull it out because it had been in too long. The Dr. got out his trusty eye drill and drilled out the piece of steel. After 3 to 4 days of antibiotic drops the injured eye felt better than the good one.

Don't wait,
Frank

#66B
11-14-2004, 09:36 PM
Zee Medical Supply: sells a eye magnet pen with a small loop of fishing line on the other end to loosen up stuck items, been a life saver, haven't been to the doctor for removal work in the last 15 years since I bought it. I weld pipeline fulltime so its always sleel or rust in the eye, anybody that works with steel should have one.

torker
11-14-2004, 09:40 PM
I'm with the others....don't fool with this! I did a couple months ago and almost lost my eye. Got a big rust flake (didn't know at the time)in my eye and kept thinking it would come out on it's own...it never, it sort of melted into my eye and then raised all kinds of hell. My eye swelled shut and started to hurt like you can't believe...you know one of them heartbeat things like a migrain...except in yer eye. Took them 2 hours to scrape the crap out, then another hour the next day...of scraping...it's sorta gross when they do that. Wore a patch for over a week...couldn't work or drive. Get that outta there! Good luck!

ibewgypsie
11-14-2004, 09:48 PM
Aboard_...

Soon as butch catches it.. he has that "Stubborn streak" in him.. he'll hang around till they tie up.. I HOPE, it was a six or so foot snake with a lump in what I saw, not a twelve footer, or I am calling the papers..

Butch is about a sixty pounder that can jump six feet straight into the air.. Sure hate for him to get squeezed to death thou..

I have posted pictures of snakes before, last time butch was calling for "help" it was a healthy fat copperhead.

DON'T chicken snakes eat poisonious ones? I might not want it dead. IF it hurts my dog, or scares me, it'll be history thou. 12ga seems to work on all sizes of snakes.. I used the 22 target pistole on the last one..

David

Evan
11-14-2004, 09:58 PM
David,

Wear appropriate eye protection when machining. Apparently I do need to tell you this. In my entire life ( I am 55) I have never had a piece of metal in my eyes. You saw the thread recently where I showed you a very nice full face shield (http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//Forum1/HTML/008608.html). It cost $35.00 Nuff said?

ibewgypsie
11-14-2004, 10:10 PM
Evan, I have it's cousin hanging up on a nail. Since a friend got a scar across his eye and looks like a joker now I won't use a speedcut without one. A grinding rock is near as bad.

I have worked in a gas mask all day. Raised up the mask only to get caustic in my eyes.. I got to where I would bend over and shake the full face mask as I removed it.

I'm not a kid ya'll.. I did catch some shavings in my eyebrows thou. I am thinking right now the way the cnc is misting up my shop I might build a box for it.. Keep all them buggers in the box.

I have shelves of books around the heated-air conditioned room..

David

wierdscience
11-14-2004, 10:20 PM
Aboard,we have social medicine here too,you won't get turned away at an ER here,its against the law.Anyway Dave needs an EYE doctor,not an ER.Most ER doctors won't deal with eyes,they usually send you to an eye doctor the following day.

I've been at it 15 years full time,have had two pieces in my eye,both times I was wearing protection while machining.like David it happened after the fact by coming out of my hair.

If you work around this stuff long enough sooner or later it will happen,facesheild,safty glasses or whatever.


I usually blow off and run a fine toothed comb through my hair and beard before I take my glasses off.

ibewgypsie
11-14-2004, 11:25 PM
My busted nose won't let the saftey glasses seat on my face right.

Same way with a gas mask. Since I had my side teeth pulled It is impossible for me to get a "seal" without my false teeth in. SOmething they didn't want to hear at the nuclear plant.

David

Evan
11-14-2004, 11:49 PM
Bull sheet. I wear glasses just to see what I am doing. I also wear my face shield. I have three of them. They are cheap......

Compared to the alternative....

I have a full beard. It caused a real problem at the pulp mill I used to service until they found out there was a thing called a "bite block" respirator. It fits in your mouth like SCUBA gear


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RobDee
11-15-2004, 12:10 AM
David,
Don't use the shop vac. The last time I did that it took two hours to find my eyeball at the bottom of the tank. It's real tough using one eye, you have to wash your eyeball off when you find it and it gets scuffed all up as it goes down the hose.

Use a NeFeB magnet instead.
I went to the ER once and the doc took a 'Q' tip and ran it under my lid and got the particle. I've done it here a couple of times but it takes a little nerve to get the 'Q' tip under there but it works great. When you're done wash your eye.

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speedy
11-15-2004, 12:29 AM
David, get your butt to the doc, nearest medical centre or optomatrist.We don`t want you getting all one eyed on us http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
When you have sorted out the eye prob , consider using "Brilcream" ( a little dab`ll do you )or hair gel on your hair and eyebrows, slick it well in ( it will stop the metal from falling into your eyes, but you may find more of it attached ) then send a photo http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif
All joking aside I`m wishing you well Dave.
cheers, Ken

speedy
11-16-2004, 06:28 AM
How are you doing Dave? I`m hopeing that you managed to get the metal out of your eye without any damage. Swarf and metal fileings have a habit of getting absolutely everywhere and into the house, much to the wifes pleasure http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
I got to thinking some more on your problem . Maybe a cap would do the trick by preventing the metal from settling on your eyebrows and hair or maybe a bandana. If your doing a lot of welding then I pesume that you`ll have one or the other that you wear under the weld helmet already.
Best wishes , Ken

ibewgypsie
11-16-2004, 07:31 AM
Doctor appointment this morning. I am getting checked from both ends I think.
No, it has'nt came out by itself.. It needs assistance. I can't see it but I know it is there.
Yeah, I think I may start not wearing shirts with pockets to the shop either, I had one that kept sticking me.. sure enough the pocket was full of small shavings. That tells me the glasses have worked before.. If they were bouncing off my chest they were bouncing off my face. I wore bib overhauls running the lathe, once.. I had shavings down in the bib and on top of my rotund belly. Shaking them on down I don't think helped much. I have not wore my overhauls back in the shop.

David

speedy
11-16-2004, 07:43 AM
Dave, best wishes at the docs. Maybe it`s time to fit guards on the machines, I find them a hindrance/nuisence but the consequences of not having them can be fairly nasty.
Ken

ibewgypsie
11-16-2004, 08:33 AM
Shaved the head last night. Not done the eyebrows yet. No mohawk this time. Soon I have to take a "choke" normal job for a while.

Maybe when I see the bill from the doctor I'll shave them eyebrows.

During the episode where I got the shavings? I was running three machines at once, cnc, lathe and drill press. Not sure which one is the culprit since it didn't happen in the shop.


David http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

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pgmrdan
11-16-2004, 11:08 AM
I went to the optometrist a couple of months ago for new glasses. When it came time to pick out the glasses I said I wanted glass lenses. She asked what kind of work I do and when she found out that for a hobby I mess around in my workshop she suggested I get plastic (more expensive = more profit) lenses in case I get hit with something.

I couldn't help it. I just laughed at her. I told her that a flimsy little pair of glasses wasn't going to do much to protect my eyes and wouldn't do anything to protect my face. I told her I wear a full face shield in the workshop whenever I need protection. I stuck with the glass lenses.

If I get more scarred up on my body that's one thing but this ugly face can't risk any more scars. A full face shield is always nearby in my shop.

skeeter
11-16-2004, 12:44 PM
Hi David,

Hope the eye is getting better.

I can't wear the safety glasses that have the nose arrangement molded in. I have to wear the glasses that have adjustable nose pads.

This may work for you.

Take care of that eye.

ibewgypsie
11-16-2004, 01:53 PM
HE STUCK HIS FINGER UP MY.... SUDDENLY I FELT BETTER.. I guess he dislodged it from the other end..

My eyes had no trouble reading the bill he gave me..

I go back, even thou he made me wait a hour in a waiting room.. He still needs to make that mercedes payment.

David = (I hate doctors) And Lawyers.. AND exwives.. AND big fat policemen with guns and cans of mace, and SMall policemen with guns and cans of mace and a big fat ego.. and stuff in my eye..

Okay, I am done now, it only took half a roll of toilet paper to make me feel normal again.

Michael Az
11-16-2004, 09:51 PM
One thing you might try David. See if you can find where Tammy Faye gets her eyelash's and order some. I don't believe anything could get through them!
Michael

JRouche
11-16-2004, 11:52 PM
Was crusin the web and thought I saw you walkin outta the doc's office. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//eek.gif JRouche

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/Jrouche/David.jpg

happy02
11-17-2004, 12:13 AM
After last weekend wire wheels can kiss my ass, but that's another story. Our Prayers have been answered... it came out OK after all!! Do be careful when you're fly cutting tho!

klla
11-17-2004, 03:17 AM
the best thing i`v found for getting stuff outta your eyes is a dollar bill folded to a point![something about the fibre content just grabbs the forein material] i know its not the most sanitary thing to be sticking in your eye, but, it will remove most things with just a wipe..most of my work is in the field where an eyewash station aint availible..like 40' up the mast of a fishing vessel, or underneath a 700 series american crane...have checked into the portable eyewash bottles,,always just wipe the offending object out with a dollar and wash my eye with a paper cup of water from the cooler...only made one trip to the eye doctor in 25 yrs of welding/fab work and that was after a paramedic/safty man at a shipyard successfully DROVE a pc of metal into my eye with a cotten swab! said he got it, but the next day i was at TAMPA EYE CLINIC with a rust ring! seein your eye doctor grab a DREMEL tool aint a good feelin!
best o luck with that!

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unless i`m welding!!!!

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ibewgypsie
11-17-2004, 05:59 AM
The doctor looked in my eye yesterday. I was angry cause I had been made to wait over a hour and didn't really want to even see him. HE then gave me the rectal exam.. NOT good.. I am homophobic and it hurt like heck. Hard to relax. He said the C word possibly to get me to come back for the scope job..

He didn't see anything in my eye. If it continues to bother me I will have to see someone else. A specialist costs bunches, I hear around $1500 for a simple scope/check/extraction. My eye is worth more than that. I have gotten hard matter out of the corner three times now. Perhaps it will calicify and expell the problem. It has in the past.. Riding across the desert on a bike, the sand is almost as bad as metal. Your eye spits that right out.

He said non-impact metal in your eye usually comes out pretty easy. I think this is under my eyeball now.

I had a burgular this morning, or excuse me a prowler.. (didn't steal anything I know of) A neighbors son just got out of the penn.. I guess he is out shopping. I was rude enough to him yesterday to let him know he was not welcome around. Then tonight, yep.. I wonder who that is? I got a pair of handcuffs hanging close by If I catch anyone. It is about 30deg here and I'll just tie them up in the yard after I subdue them and let the police have them/him.. Butch was biting the wire wanting out. I almost let him go on them. He justs wants to have fun too. ThaT pup thinks he is a grizzly. When I pick him up under one arm he calms right down.

speedy
11-17-2004, 06:35 AM
Yes eyes are valuable Dave, look after them well.
Maybe you`re suffering from saddle sores or haemoroids from too much riding? http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif Oh, I forgot..you can never have too much bike riding, can you??
Those rectals aint fun at all; I had a doc use an optic on me one time ; I was not comfortable about it. "Where do you live?" I asked and he told me where. "It must have a better view than you get at this job"....He agreed http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif Thankfully the results were clear. I drink plenty of clean water now ( 1 1/2 to 2 litres a day)
Ken

ibewgypsie
11-17-2004, 06:46 AM
Speedy.. I ain't had any bike riding lately. I used to relax that way.

I am adding onto our house again. I got the back half standing, got the front concrete pad paid for with "ONE" ebay items profit, now we pulled the plastic to put framing up on it.

I guess the prowler wanted to make sure I put all the saws up. I did. I have tools I bought when I was 17.. I am 47.. Still got them.

Life is not so bad. I got a good woman, a fancy bike er. <choke>. I mean end table.. HA..and a shop to play in.. I wish everyone else in the world was happy as I am..
I am thinking of cutting one of the cast fatboy wheels down for my bike.. something simple like me.. just my last name and a feather like I tattooed on my leg.. I sure wish I could anodize it black.. I don't have a tub that large to immerse it. As long as the engraving can be fitted over the disc to view.. I have to finish the power drive on the cnc indexer.. again..

5:50am here, my dog is patrolling.. I am taking a nap..

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David Cofer, Of:
Tunnel Hill, North Georgia

Michael Az
11-17-2004, 10:23 AM
The last time I got something in my eye it hurt all day and nite. Went to the emergengy room the next day to have it removed and it was gone. Doctor said lots of times that happens after the object has scratched the eyeball. Thankfully the eye heals faster than anything else.
Michael

Steinmetz
11-17-2004, 05:08 PM
Stare into a mirror, take a clean round toothpick and gently lay the end section accros the spot and using an upward motion, sweep the cinder/grit/splinter out of it's crater. Wear a patch for a few days
It will feel swell immediately after the grit is removed.
I.ve done it at least 20 times takes a few minutes. Steinmetz