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Alaninga
11-16-2004, 01:02 AM
any info,,quality,,usefulness? Has a vertical head that appears pretty light duty.
thanks

JCHannum
11-16-2004, 07:01 AM
The Sheldon vertical mill is a very good machine. Look it up on www.lathes.co.uk (http://www.lathes.co.uk) Fitting a vertical head adds to the usefulness.

I would be interested in knowing the make of vertical head it is fitted with. They often used Rusnok heads for this. They are also a good unit. If you are not interested, someone else in your area may want it.

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mike petree
11-16-2004, 08:13 AM
I've never run one but did take a good look at one at a local dealer. It appeared to be well made and sturdy for it's small size.

Mike

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dkinzer
11-20-2004, 05:05 PM
I have a Vernon horizontal mill which is the predecessor to the Sheldon. It was probably made in the 30's. I'm in the process of renovating it including putting in a new spindle with R8 taper.

For a small horizontal mill, the Vernon/Sheldon is a much better choice than the Atlas. It is larger, more powerful and less expensive. On the downside, it is larger and heavier. Also, the Vernon/Sheldon uses B&S 9 tooling (some of the later ones were R8) instead of the MT2 (I think) that the Atlas uses.

One other nice thing is the continuously variable speed control instead of cone pulleys.

If you end up not getting it, please let me know as I might be interested in picking up another one.



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Rich Carlstedt
11-21-2004, 02:37 AM
The Original style horizontal Mill was a "Diamond Mill"
Made in LA before/during the war (II).
Sometime in the early 50's, they sold out or whatever to Vernon.. no changes were made to the best of my knowledge.
in the late 60's or early 70's, Sheldon Lathe Company (Chicago)bought them out, and redid the varible drive system and the table feed and modified the headstock.
they kept the B& S #9 spindle.

Diamond had both a bench model and a floor model. I believe (?) Vernon did the same.
I have never seen a bench model of a Sheldon however.
The bench model had straight 3 speed side drive with a 1 1/2 HP motor.
The Floor models had variable speed drives built into the base with a 1 1/2 or 2 HP motor.

These machines were made to work commercially and were very hardy!
All pulley drives had double belts, since backgear was not an option.

Hope this helps
I had 2 diamonds at one time
I have a brand new surplus table...a friend of mine was a supplier to Sheldon years ago

suomi
11-21-2004, 01:30 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v507/mhill/2004_1111mikesjunk0001.jpg
testing picture posting VERNON mill with bridgeport head

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suprdvn
11-23-2004, 11:34 AM
Cool http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//cool.gif , a shop with a urinal ( pipe sticking out of the wall). http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

It could be a trick of the camera but it sure looks like a dungeon. You would be suprized how much diference it makes to paint the ceiling white. Though, any shop with those clean and shiny old mills is awesome. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//cool.gif

suomi
11-23-2004, 09:12 PM
suprdvn thanks for the comments on the mills. after looking at the picture I guess it kind of looks like a dungen (the house is over a hundered years old) has anyone seen a cleveland mill like mine in there travels
thanks Mike

roninB4
11-26-2004, 08:21 AM
Sheldon Lathe? Good heavens I haven't heard that name in several years. I used to work for Sheldon in the early 80's over off Lehigh in Skokie. They were bought out by Acme/Cleveland and we packed up shop to move everything back over to Knox Ave. down the street from Houston Foods. We operated there for a while only to be told on Wed. that Friday was the last day. Since that fell on Dec. 5 that meant that finding another job before the holidays was out. Sheldon made a nice smaller tool room lathe but fell behind the other players in the larger sizes. They lost thier butts when they dumped a lot of money in a slant bed mill that had early NC capabilities. They did the R&D for a promised contract from Caterpillar only to find that when the development work was done Caterpillar was having trouble of their own and didn't want the machines. Sheldon took the prototype to the Machine Tool Show but got no takers. Bad management and bad unions finally worked together to auger the operation in. It was the last enginer lathe manufacturer in the US and it seemed a shame to watch it go down.