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Elninio
12-08-2004, 05:20 PM
Thers a lathe on ebay that i want to buy, no bids as of yet. My dad spoked with the owner and he had an agreement that if no one bids, he would sell the lathe to us for 200$ cheeper than what is on ebay.

However people wait until the last moment to bid. Should i bid and lose 200$? or should i wait for the bid to end, contact the owner and get it for 200$ cheaper, but risk losing the lathe on the count that someone might bid 1 minute before the bid ends???

BTW: cant tell you which lathe it is on the count that i really badly want it, unless you live in the states or sumtin since im in canada http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

Evan
12-08-2004, 05:43 PM
I don't know anything about that make and model but it looks very decent and comes with a very nice selection of tooling and accessories. Chances are someone will snipe it at the last moment. As long as it is in good condition it is certainly worth what he is asking in CDN dollars. Doesn't look like a tremclad rebuild either. You and your budget will have to decide what to do.

ibewgypsie
12-08-2004, 05:47 PM
Gee should I jump into the water or is there rocks underneath?

I have been beat out on 18 items since last week.

All of them in the last minute. All more than I wanted to pay. All were dissapointing.

No help, sorry.

David

laddy
12-08-2004, 05:54 PM
Good Luck! I hope ot works out for you. Fred

BillH
12-08-2004, 05:55 PM
I noticed theres a South Bend 9" model C on ebay for 199$. Only problem is that there is 2 large notches cutout on the V ways of the bed at a very bad spot. I think one could part that thing out and get their money back, does look to have a full set of change gears.
I've been raping myself lately getting change gears on Ebay, one jackass tried to snipe me last minute, but my highest bid was only a few $ more. The other change gear I sniped them.
I cant stand Ebay, especially for South Bend 9" lathe parts.

BillH
12-08-2004, 06:10 PM
Is it this one?
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=92086&item=3859054061&rd=1
Hmm, how come I sense Deja Vu looking at that lathe? did some one post it today earlier? Anyone notice the paint on the leadscrew? Sloppy paint job, but hell if its in really good condition, not going to find a better 9" lathe for home shop.

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torker
12-08-2004, 06:24 PM
Elninio...Remember where that lathe is...whoever buys it is going to have to move it. It's a tough call....you'll easily spend $200 running around looking at other lathes, etc. but if you can save $200 then you are that much tooling,etc, ahead. Good luck!

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Elninio
12-08-2004, 06:24 PM
Na thats not the one, im in canada remmber? also the shippment menthod is local pickup ONLY

BillH
12-08-2004, 06:28 PM
Yeh Elninio, notice the link is Ebay Canada?

Elninio
12-08-2004, 06:29 PM
torker, what you mean? im sorta confused i dont really understand what you mean exept for the last sentence, but the lathe is already loadded with $800+ worth of accesories including cutting tools, vices, chucks, stock, stand, collant, etc

Elninio
12-08-2004, 06:33 PM
hey bill , item location on the SB is "cherry hill new jersey US"

torker
12-08-2004, 06:36 PM
We both know where that lathe is and it's going to be a pain for anyone to pick up....right? The owner won't do it so....

Elninio
12-08-2004, 06:41 PM
the lathe i plan to purchase is 5 km away from my house..

Snowman200
12-08-2004, 06:59 PM
Is it this one ?
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=92086&item=3857677324

Elninio
12-08-2004, 07:01 PM
Ahh Jeez!! yep thats the one, plz no bid guys!

Elninio
12-08-2004, 07:03 PM
is no one bidding because its local pickup only or is there something else i dont see?

Evan
12-08-2004, 07:13 PM
That is the one I was referring to as well. 5km away? It doesn't get much easier.

I sure hope you get it. One heck of a Christmas present http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

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torker
12-08-2004, 07:18 PM
That'll stop some of the bidders that live a ways away but a lot of people watch Ebay....your neighbour could be looking at it too...That's why I said it's a tough call. You'll save $200 IF nobody bids on it...right. But you'll spend a lot more driving around looking for another one...that's what I meant before. You're right though, someone could sit there and if there are no bids they could get it for the minimum at the last minute. Unfortunately that is how ANY auction works.

wierdscience
12-08-2004, 07:31 PM
No shipping usually knocks it in the head,so your chances are good I would think.

If you don't get it,don't sweat it,they made more than one.

Good luck!

Chester
12-08-2004, 07:34 PM
If you REALLY want it, I'd suggest you bid your best in the last ten seconds. There are lots of lurkers out there and are surely to hit in the last seconds. At least that's what I'd be doing if I were to bid......don't have to worry about me, I have enough lathe stuff.

johnny o
12-08-2004, 07:43 PM
elninio
I say bid/buy I got sniped at last minute on a clausing mill 20 miles from home. If you can pick it up yourself its worth that $200.
Good Luck!

Tinker2
12-08-2004, 08:13 PM
get it!!

http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

Joel
12-08-2004, 08:31 PM
Pretty slick Elninio. I would think it unlikely that anyone else will bid at the last second given the conditions, but you will have to decide what the risk is worth to you.

Lots of mill tooling going with that lathe, curious.

Good luck!

aboard_epsilon
12-08-2004, 08:38 PM
If you do decide to bid in the last few seconds make sure you put something like $1250...just to make sure that no one bids something like $1201 dollars at the last second.
when you put in $1250 that may or may not be the price that you pay for it .
it will increase the bid amount by $1 or more over that other person who sneaks in at the end of the sale .
make sure your freshley logged in to ebay.
and that you have nothing running that may spoil your last min bid like windows update or norton updater...or any p-2-p prog.
put your bid in in the last Min......dont give anyone a chance to plonk money ontop of your bid.

Hope this helps.
all the best...mark

Al Flipo
12-08-2004, 08:41 PM
Nice small lathe, I hope you get it; I don’t know why this guy is selling it on eBay. He should have no trouble selling it in the greater Toronto area when it is properly advertised. Take some knowledgeable person with you when you go to look at it.

Michael Az
12-08-2004, 09:23 PM
I've been looking all over for one of those! I'd better snipe it........Just kidding Elninio. If I really wanted that lathe as close to home as that one is, I would go look at it. If you fall in love with it, bid all you want to spend for it. Hope it is yours! Last machine I got rfrom ebay was 6,000 lbs and 1500 miles away.

Michael

Elninio
12-08-2004, 09:24 PM
Actually i didnt look at it, and this "guy" is a girl lol, my dad looked at it, he has a masters in machine tools but its a romanian degree so its worth less than nothing here in canada. also should i use the "auto-bid function" you know the thing that bids for me?

BillH
12-08-2004, 09:26 PM
That lathe should do you well, Hope you get it, then It's off looking for a Mill, then a surface grinder, then a shaper, then a horizontal mill, then a tool grinder, then a...

aboard_epsilon
12-08-2004, 09:31 PM
WOW Michael, did you go and pick that thing up yourself.
if you did it must have been 3 days there and three days back and 150 gallons of fuel.
all the best..mark

Smokedaddy
12-08-2004, 09:37 PM
If it's in as good as shape as you think it is, plus local to you, what the heck is $200 nowadays. Give me a break, go look at the and if you like it, buy it.

-SD:

Elninio
12-08-2004, 09:40 PM
if i manage to sell enough bmx hubs i will get a mill in aprox, 1 month, if not then its next year that im gona get a rong fu 45 and convert to cnc, then 4 then 5 axis, maybe even 6 !! muhuhuahaha http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//wink.gif

wierdscience
12-08-2004, 10:12 PM
6 axis,4 to machine with,1 to stir coffee and 1 for a window fan,I like that http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

Elninio
12-09-2004, 07:24 AM
only 8 hours to go, but it will probably be 4 hours till someone reads this and by then i probably will own it because no one has bidded! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

kap pullen
12-09-2004, 07:52 AM
I have one exactly like that one except it says machine world on it.
It is green.
Made in Tiawan.

OK for a hobbiest but too light for a real shop.

It had, and still has a vibration problem that shows up turning-boring.

It may be the angle iron base, or the belt drive setup that causes the vibration.

I bought mine near new over 20 years ago for $2400.
I didn't know about auctions then.

Good luck with it.

kap

torker
12-09-2004, 07:58 AM
Here's wishing you luck!!! (Got butterflies in yer stomach yet?)

BillH
12-09-2004, 09:46 AM
Hey Elninio, is that you who bid on the lathe?

aboard_epsilon
12-09-2004, 10:33 AM
IF it is ive wasted my time typing out advise.
all the best...mark

torker
12-09-2004, 03:51 PM
Wow!!! That thing took off in the last few seconds...the one guy must have wanted it pretty bad...from what I saw he was bidding himself up a couple hundred every 10 seconds.

BillH
12-09-2004, 04:11 PM
Im guessing Elninio didnt get it?

torker
12-09-2004, 04:18 PM
It went for $1725. I don't know if that was in his budget. Whoever bought it made sure...ouch...$200 a pop at the end.

Thrud
12-09-2004, 05:16 PM
[Well, even crap sells for more than that these days...

JRouche
12-09-2004, 05:45 PM
Everything happens for a reason. Maybe something less expensive and just as nice will come along. JRouche

aboard_epsilon
12-09-2004, 06:11 PM
Bet your wishing now that he hadnt told the world about it.
Anyhows wishing you good luck on your next purchase.....but shhhhhhh dont give people here to many leads about where its from.
I'm not saying that anyone who has spoken in this discution has bought it .....but one of the many thousands probably who read this forum without contributing to it may have or told someone about it or got it themselves .

all the best...mark

wierdscience
12-09-2004, 08:34 PM
Don't let it get you down,like I said they made more than one.

Elninio
12-09-2004, 09:56 PM
ahhhhhhhhh crap, lost the bid by 4 seconds,. apparently it raised to 1700 and i got beated by "ahmed-purchaser

.RC.
12-09-2004, 10:40 PM
Bad luck there elninio. But there might be a better one just around the corner.

torker
12-09-2004, 11:21 PM
Elninio...just a thought. You live in a fairly large area population wise. Why don't you just try placing a want ad in a larger paper. You never know what is out there and you could buy it on your terms with no competition. I do that fairly often...put ads in the misc, tools, AND wanted sections in the same paper. I just bought a 4.3 Chevy engine for my lil' hotrod that way. The local wreckers wanted $800 to $1600 for a high milage engine. I bought one with high miles on it for $100 with an ad in the paper. Good luck!
Russ

speedy
12-10-2004, 02:59 AM
Elninio, bad luck there, but to repeat what someone else said," bad luck happens for a reason" especially if you talk about it on the web.
I missed out on a Viceroy Royale 10" shaper after seeking info on the web http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//frown.gif but recently, good fortune came my way in the form of a 10.5" shaper and 8"stroke power saw for less than the Viceroy.
Don't despair , there is another good deal further along the road and you will be better prepared now http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif
Merry Christmas, Ken

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Elninio
12-10-2004, 07:48 AM
hey, tnx, but i was looking forward to using a lathe soon! i guess ill find one but this one was like it was meant for me : 5 km away, overloaded with tooling, came with stand (this was an issue since the BB stands are flimsy)

I think im going to move up to a large size since the 12 x 24 or this range lathe is hard to find, because 12 x 36 of the same model is just a bit more expensive

ibewgypsie
12-10-2004, 11:32 AM
Torker:

That is what prompted me to convert our custom Astro van to a V8. It went "really simple, everything bolted back up to the v8. Thou the transmission died a week later and I put a 350 turbo automatic in it.

You need some flat plate about six inches x 4" x 3/8 to build the motor mounts. They are further forward on the V6/V8. Use the factory rubber mounts.

El: Sorry. I did that for a year or more waiting, just like deer hunting. Don't take the "bad" shot. Wait on a good one. I gave $700 for my leblond regal. Not seen but two that cheap since. I really like that old lathe.

David

BillH
12-10-2004, 11:39 AM
In my local classifieds, theres a Millport 6x18 surface grinder with magnetic chuck, I only wish I had the 650$ or 500$ I could talk him down to.
No, I will no longer say which classified it is, since I did that, I noticed the amount of South Bend lathes have gone down. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

BillH
12-10-2004, 11:41 AM
Elninio, instant gratification is not always the best, sometimes you got no choice though.

Andrew
12-10-2004, 03:58 PM
If you want instant gratification, buy a new one. You could go with one from busybee, build a better stand for it, and once you spend some time fine tuning it, you should end up with a decent lathe.

You have to have a lot of patience, especially in Toronto, as good used machines disappear really quick. If you can't wait a few months to several years, you're not patient enough for the good deals on used machinery.

Elninio
12-11-2004, 02:38 PM
Well i just spended a whole day messaging 15 lathe companies on lathes ranging from 11 x 29 to 12 x 40.

Hope someone replies to me witha "good price"

quasi
12-11-2004, 04:18 PM
Elnino, get a lathe with 36" beween centres if you can, it isn't much bigger and they are a little more common.

Toronto is full of machine tools compared to most of Canada, have patience. Look up your local model enginering club, someone in it might have something for sale.

Your not very far from New York state, their seems to be lots of stuff for sale there.

Elninio
12-11-2004, 05:48 PM
Well ive seen some 12 x 36 but they are professional grade and weigh 2100 lbs. Too much to get into the basement, i would buy from BB or king if i could afford it. I guess i should just wait for the next e-bay special, also ive checked the classifieds and such but nothing the right size shows up (or atleast for the time ive been searching)