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lugnut
01-28-2005, 09:07 PM
Guys I need your advice. There are two items on Ebay that have caught my eye. They are surplus items sold by the state of Oregon and are located less than a hundred miles away, so I could easily pick them up (no Shipping) is the saw a usable item? And what about the mill? Is it worth any thing? The Items are: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20784&item=4353702637&rd=1
And
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=58254&item=3869673677&rd=1
Need you input. Thanks,Mel

egpace
01-28-2005, 09:24 PM
Mel,

Assume you'll have to throw some money into them, and bid accordingly. As with all used equipment, you take your chances. You may luck out & get away with a motor or 2 or you could be faced with a major rebuild.

The other thing to ask yourself, do they meet your needs? The saw may be too big and the mill too small.

You're close enough to inspect before bidding. If your budget permits you to outbid all comers, it will be worth your while to make the trip.

Ed

PS I love the mill! Just hope that you haven't attracted potential bidders by your posting.

snowman
01-28-2005, 09:28 PM
Mel,

I disagree that the saw is too big.

Buy the biggest saw you can. I bought one the size of the HF 4x6 (used Emerson) and wish I had bigger. I consistently find myself flipping stuff and cutting on the other side.

It's one thing to have to upgrade mills, lathes, etc later...they have pretty good resale. I just dont see the same resale in the saw dept...and dont seem to run across them that often.

-Jacob

egpace
01-28-2005, 10:14 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by snowman:
Mel,

I disagree that the saw is too big.

Buy the biggest saw you can. I bought one the size of the HF 4x6 (used Emerson) and wish I had bigger. I consistently find myself flipping stuff and cutting on the other side.

It's one thing to have to upgrade mills, lathes, etc later...they have pretty good resale. I just dont see the same resale in the saw dept...and dont seem to run across them that often.

-Jacob</font>

My statement was not that "The saw was too big" My question was “do they meet your needs?”


The suggestion was that Mel should ask himself if it was "Too big" for his needs. If his intent is to make candles stick holders for his daughter's doll house and that alone, then he needs to decide if the saw is well suited for the task. Conversely, If he intends to cut full length keyways in 6 foot long shafts with the mill he needs to ask himself if the mill is too small.

Ed

lugnut
01-28-2005, 10:26 PM
Thanks for the input! I guess what I should have ask is: What is the mills use intended for. What kind of milling can be done on that kind of mill?
thanks, Mel

torker
01-28-2005, 10:47 PM
That little mill...I want it too...I want all the little horizontal mills! When I have them all...I will pick the best one and put it in the bedroom on my wifes makeup table. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
Russ

egpace
01-29-2005, 02:15 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by torker:
That little mill...I want it too...I want all the little horizontal mills! When I have them all...I will pick the best one and put it in the bedroom on my wifes makeup table. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
Russ</font>


Just tell her it's an eyebrow pencil sharpener, hopefully she'll never know & reward you for it, or better yet cut some keyways for you!
Ed

roninB4
01-29-2005, 08:25 AM
Looks like a nice little mill that will need some work. But at the price it's hard to beat IMO. Being a horizontal it will have limited use but for what it can do and if you have to time/money/room for it I'd go for it. If you're planning on using it for a money job then keep looking as this will chew up lots of time and effort to make it right again. A horizontal can be great for squaring plate work or slotting but for all the times I've wanted one at home a smaller machine would be preferable to a larger one.

Evan
01-29-2005, 10:36 AM
Hey Russ, let's go down and pick up that mill. Then we can flip for it http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

lugnut
01-29-2005, 12:37 PM
Thanks for the help guys. After some research, I don't think I have the space required for either machine. I'm going to pass. Thanks again
Mel

torker
01-29-2005, 12:54 PM
Lugnut...Could you please pick that lil' mill up and drive up to BC so me and Evan can flip for it? We'd sure appreciate it http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
Russ

lugnut
01-29-2005, 01:09 PM
Russ, it’s only a 660 mile trip down to Salem. You and Even could slip down in a days drive, Thaw out for a day or so and head back with the mill as a trophy!

DFMiller
01-29-2005, 01:22 PM
My information says it 362.2 Miles from Vancouver. Driving time 6 hours and 3 minutes.
Then again if you live on the Island you have to add many hours and tim eto barf up the ferry food.

andy_b
01-29-2005, 01:59 PM
Mel,

how can you say you don't have space for that little cutie? http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

if i lived close enough to pick it up i'd bid on it myself.

andy b.

Jpfalt
01-29-2005, 11:07 PM
MINE!!!! (I hope)

torker
01-29-2005, 11:45 PM
Naw..I live almost on the Alberta border. Jp...do you mean...YOU will be bringing us up the lil' mill now? Gee thanks http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif We have a darn fine McDonalds in town here...we'll buy you supper before you head home!
Russ

Jpfalt
01-30-2005, 01:58 AM
Sure....

I only charge about 40 cents (US) per mile.

A steal at half the price.....

Evan
01-30-2005, 02:05 AM
40 cents per mile? Since it will be coming to Canada then we will pay in Canadian miles. This is a really large country and the miles are very long... Our miles are at least 20 furlongs.

Jpfalt
01-30-2005, 10:27 PM
OK, for you Canuckle heads a special price:

.00033 cents Canadian per milimeter

Much better than the angstrom pricing.

torker
01-31-2005, 12:13 AM
Ummmmm...Jp...(taps foot on floor like Bugs Bunny) "I'M WAITING!!! We even held a Big Mac(and large fries)for you all night!!Now you wouldn't be going to keep that little mill would you??
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">
OK, for you Canuckle heads </font>
ROFLMAO!!!! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
Russ

mattc
01-31-2005, 12:18 AM
you could just run it on up here to Alaska for me I got the room and just think of all the beautyfull senery that is snow covered up here (spelling is NOT my longsute)
http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
Matt in AK

Jpfalt
01-31-2005, 12:37 PM
Torker,

No disrespect intended. But then I never thought the McKensie brothers were funny until I spent a week at a portable sawmill operation near Smithers BC and found out they were for real.

As to the machine, if I find out it's well behaved, fetches my slippers and doesn't soil the carpet I May decide to keep it around. On the other hand if it tears up the furniture and kills the neighbors cat I'll be sure to leave it in a basket on your front doorstep with a note, "Please don't drown my poor little baby".

torker
01-31-2005, 01:45 PM
Jp...No offence taken...Ya made me chuckle! And I agree...You see the damndest things around them portable sawmills! Especially around some of them small northern towns where there just could be some inbreeding...LOL!!! BTW...when you where in Smithers, it didn't rain did it? http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif Good luck with the mill!
Russ

lugnut
01-31-2005, 03:42 PM
Sorry you didn't get the mill JP I think you played your hand too soon! Should have waited till the last. Now you don't have a good excuse to go to BC to see Evan or torker.
Mel

Jpfalt
02-01-2005, 12:16 AM
Yeah, I had a proxy bid in place and someone sniped it in the last 5 seconds. Oh, well. There will always be other machines.