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    Default What's Your Preferred Source of Machine Shop Info?

    I'm very impressed with the depth and caliber of information available in this HSM forum. It's my first serious participation in a forum like this and I'm learning a lot from you'all - MANY THANKS!

    After reading your posts almost daily, I've been wondering what you "old geezers" find to be your best information sources, such as internet forums, subscriptions or reference books. Your responses could range all over the map, depending on your respective skill levels - but, it would be valuable to many of us "newbies" to see what you feel are good sources of information.

    How about keeping this simple, i.e.
    1) Best internet forum (i.e. HSM, PM, others)
    2) Best periodical / magazine
    3) Best reference book
    4) Others?

    Note that I've not included in this listing, the huge number of internet links and technical references that are available on the internet. In the past couple of weeks I've been compiling a consolidated list of machine shop / metal working web links - thanks in part to an earlier HSM thread. Now I'm interested in hearing what you'all rely on for your "go to" information sources.
    Bob J

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    The most readable reference Ive currently come across is Machine Shop Trade Secrets James A Harvey.
    The uk.rec.models.engineering usenet group is also quite good, and the signal to noise ratio is much better than rec.crafts.metalworking was last time I looked in...

    Dave

    edit: oops. got his name wrong...
    Last edited by small.planes; 12-04-2007 at 03:32 PM.

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    sp I believe you miss key'd the last name is Harvey

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    Refference books are the best source. Internet forums are not always a good source because anyone can post anything whether it's true or not.

    It would be best if you consider all forums as opinions and not fact even though some of the information is true.

    The thing to do is research your question in reliable books. Then ask opinions on the forums.

    Remember that anyone can write and publish a book and the material may not be correct.

    Remember that all you hear, read or see may not be factual.

    It's better to be a sceptic rather than to be gullible and believe everything.
    Last edited by Carld; 12-04-2007 at 03:46 PM.
    It's only ink and paper

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    Remember that there are at least seven conflicting ways to do almost anything, so don't expect "the" answer to a lot of questions. I think that over the years most people develop their own ways of doing things that work for them, even though somebody else might think those techniques are total horse hockey.

    I've found the learning curve to be pretty long. After 25+ years at this hobby, I'm still learning. So don't be in a rush.

    I started out subscribing to a bunch of magazines. Over the years I've subscribed to Model Engineer, Modeltec, Engineering in Miniature, Home Shop Machinist, Projects in Metal, and a couple of others. I've bought back volumes of Model Engineer and read those. With all the magazines, I think one does well if one can pick up a couple of tips, and maybe find one article, per issue that is useful. The magazines all have to try to appeal to a wide audience, and that means there is almost bound to be content that is not of interest to me. At this point, I have at least 20 feet of shelving devoted to back issues of magazines, so I'm not buying any more. That's enough to keep me going for the rest of my life.


    Books: My first book was probably South Bend's "How to Run a Lathe." Not necessarily the best, but it's a classic. I also like L.H.Sparey's "The Amateur's Lathe." I've got piles of other books that I've bought, both new and used. Used bookstores can be a great resource.

    This hobby cannot be summarized in "a" book. I've got a copy of Leo J. StClair's "Design and Use of Cutting Tools." 350+ pages on single-point lathe tools. If somebody can write 350 pages about lathe toolbit design, it's pretty obvious that there is a lot one can learn about in the pursuit of knowledge of machining.

    Oh -- Machinery's Handbook is practically a "must." An older edition is fine. Maybe even better than a new one. I figure the level of technology in my basement is about 1953 vintage, so a Machinery's Handbook from that era fits right in. If you're more modern than I am, you may find value in a new edition, I don't know.

    Pay attention to what Carld says about the Internet, and about forums. I'm sure we all try to give the best information we can, but as my signature says, "Don't believe everything you know." Just a reminder to myself that something I believe is true may be totally wrong, as I've occasionally found out when somebody here has corrected a statement I've made.

    And there is also personal experience. As a source of knowledge, there is nothing like making five of some part before getting it right.
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    I agree with the above and would add to look for old reference and how-to books; say from the late 1800s and early 1900s. Lindsay Publications and used book shops and antique shops are good sources.

    In my shop at least, I'm working with a light-duty lathe and HSS, a small DOC mill (DOC = Dumb Operator Control), a shaper, and lots of hand tools. Most of what I make are snowflakes (i.e. no two parts are ever the same). So I find the tips and advice of 100 years ago more applicable to me than what works for someone cutting 100 thingies with carbide on a heavy production machine.

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    My preferred source?

    You're reading it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony ennis
    My preferred source?

    You're reading it.
    Me too!
    I have tools I don't even know I own...

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    1)Here of course.
    2)This depends to some extent the direction your machining takes,e.g.is it the means to an end,or machining for the pleasure of itself.
    3)Machinist's Handbook,the "bible"for reference.You should be able to pick one up pretty cheap,if you settle for an older issue.(Mine's 1947!)They are just as useful as the modern versions costing a couple of hundred $'s.
    4)Experience!Something you will only get through "doing",including making mistakes.By that reasoning I must be very experienced.
    Hans

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    I have quite a few books, and belong to a few forums.I consider them both priceless sources of info

    If you'd ask me to list the best book/forum, I'd have to ask for what project?

    if I want to build an engine, the best place to go would be a model engine site, but for parts of that engine, another site may provide better info.

    As far as books go I prefer the older books, for some reason they seem to cover things with a clarity that modern books have lost, without the commercial nature of some. a couple newer books I've seen read like an episode of 'this old house' with more 'advertisements' than the sunday press.

    Ken.

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