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    Default Ideas on a method/s to machine this ?

    Do not have a 4th axis on the mill, any ideas on how you might go about machining the helix?

    Ken


    It is about 1" in length and 7/8" in diameter.

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    That is not just a simple helix, it is a cylindrical cam. Looks like a job for a pantograph or CNC to me! Gary P. Hansen

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    Default I would use a Rotary Table or Dividing Head

    Break Cam Path up into as many x or y movements needed for application (say 1 x or y move per Degree of rotation), and cut Cam path Manually, one small bit at a time... Smooth out with file if needed...

    Old School...

    New School, have someone CNC it for you...

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    First question is what are the tolerances?

    Also, it doesn't look like a helix. What is the side view?
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    If you can get away with a helix then mount the job up on a mandrel and on an extension to the mandrel weld two washers, each with 4 tapped holes in and a space about 3/4" between the washers. Weld the washers so the 4 holes are equally offset in each before you weld the last washer on drop a large washer with a sloppy bore between.

    Now by using 8 push pull screws you can make this washer follow a helix to the extent of the spacing.

    Set a follower up from the toolpost or saddle, whatever is most convenient and run at low speed.
    The wobble washer will pull and push the saddle and you can apply a cut.

    That's how we used to machine the helix groove in Pilgrim oil pumps.
    I can do a sketch if needed.

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    Gary and Bguns, thanks for the input, was hoping to come up with a solution using the tools on hand, have a CNC mill but no CNC controlled 4th, breaking it up into a bunch of coordinates was a method I was not wanting to do, would work but very slow and prone to mistakes.

    John, let me read your suggestion a few more time to see if I can visualize what you are doing, if not then a sketch woul be helpful.

    Evan,
    Tolerances show +/- .005 , pretty loose.

    Side View:

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    If you can mount a suitable end mill on a powered horizontal spindle on the table, put the part on a mandrel in the CNC spindle. You use the X and Z axis to machine the part to whatever profile you want. This assumes you have servo control of the motor spindle - perhaps not a good assumption on on second thought (hence the edit).

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    I have an extra one of those, made on a cnc mill. For the Rgg gun right?
    Feel free to put me on ignore....

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    Daveo,

    A close cousin, for the D&E version.


    Ken

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    I gave up on mine, had a guy make a couple up. Very tough to make
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