After reading posts on this and other forums, I decided I was going to teach myself the art of scraping. Well, I found an old 18" Brown and Sharpe camelback and bought it, hoping to use it while I was trying to learn. Well, I found a better dovetail master that will work better for me and what I want to do, it also doesn't make me nervous to use it because it isn't a rare, old item. I've posted it on Ebay, so, if anyone out there might need one, or just have one, take a look. Thanks all.