CVA Electra?

[wierdscience]

Anyone seen these in action yet? Are they what they claim?

http://www.cva.com/rifles-electra.html

[Bguns]

Have not seen one, but a 9 volt battery at -40 is worthless...

And sometimes I might just be, 300 miles from a store...

[mattm]

It's kinda funny. I see guys at the range struggling with whatever new thing they have out for muzzle loaders and I just keep on shooting with an old Thompson side hammer that I use cast round balls and real black powder (not Pyrodex) in. I have never had it not go bang. I have even left it loaded between deer seasons and it will still go off with the first cap a year later.

[mcskipper]

This is not the first time this was tried.
Seems to me they are fixing a non problem,

My Thompson Scout never misfired with standard caps, but if you would like a hotter spark get an in line that uses shotgun primers.

[Highpower]

They will undoubtedly suffer the same fate as the Remington EtroniX rifle, and will go the way of the dodo.....

http://www.cabelas.com/gun-inventory...4elc-bud.shtml

[deltaenterprizes]

Maybe they are trying to capitolize on the primer shortage.

[gldwight]

Mid Jan I called & left three mgs, no reply to any.
sent e'mails, same: no reply.

After a lot of deep thought, and having good service in the past.
I returned the lock from my CVA Grey Wolf .54 that's never fired the first time
since new 7 yrs ago. I've replaced several springs, bunch of nipples. Nothing
seemed to help. Guys at the BP match at our range said it's got to be the lock
if all that hasn't helped.

Deciding to take a chance, I mailed the lock to BPI/CVA, Peachtree Corners,
Norcross Ga. With del confirmation. It was delivered fine in a few days as per
the PO's conf site.

Five weeks later still no response of any kind. Two more calls & left mgs, not returned.

Over a month ago I wrote a letter of explanation & mailed it certified. Week later rec'd the signed card back:
Rec'd CVA/BPI, can't make out the name, looks like purposely scribbled to be illegible.
Still not a single reply, not even to this letter asking what's going on,
did they get my lock, or not?

At this point, it's mighty doubtful I'll ever hear from them. Nor will I buy another of their products again.

IF anyone has direct contact with them, please fwd this. I'd sure as H like to know.

Before long I intend to buy a L&R Lock for the gun.

I can be reached at 719/544-4132,
or gldwight@yahoo.com

Thank you.
George

[argon99]

Mid Jan I called & left three mgs, no reply to any.
sent e'mails, same: no reply.

After a lot of deep thought, and having good service in the past.
I returned the lock from my CVA Grey Wolf .54 that's never fired the first time
since new 7 yrs ago. I've replaced several springs, bunch of nipples. Nothing
seemed to help. Guys at the BP match at our range said it's got to be the lock
if all that hasn't helped.

Deciding to take a chance, I mailed the lock to BPI/CVA, Peachtree Corners,
Norcross Ga. With del confirmation. It was delivered fine in a few days as per
the PO's conf site.

Five weeks later still no response of any kind. Two more calls & left mgs, not returned.

Over a month ago I wrote a letter of explanation & mailed it certified. Week later rec'd the signed card back:
Rec'd CVA/BPI, can't make out the name, looks like purposely scribbled to be illegible.
Still not a single reply, not even to this letter asking what's going on,
did they get my lock, or not?

At this point, it's mighty doubtful I'll ever hear from them. Nor will I buy another of their products again.

IF anyone has direct contact with them, please fwd this. I'd sure as H like to know.

Before long I intend to buy a L&R Lock for the gun.

I can be reached at 719/544-4132,
or gldwight@yahoo.com

Thank you.
George

This is known as highjacking a thread. It would have been better to start a new thread. But with that said I have a CVA Grey Wolf 54 ML also. I do believe that CVA did not make them but rather rebranded them, they were low dollar muzzle loaders. You are correct that you took a chance. Did you call CVA and get an RMA number before you mailed yours off? I suspect not. Remember I pointed out that these rifles are rebranded from a different company? Well that means CVA doesn't have locks for them. The locks on the Grey Wolf is different from the locks CVA uses because they didn't make it.

So now you have to find a lock on your own. You can try http://muzzleloaderbuilderssupply.com/ or Dixie gun works as a starting point.

Or you can chuck it all in the trash and get a much better ML. I like my Lyman Great Plains Hunter in 54 cal.

[Forestgnome]

Maybe they are trying to capitolize on the primer shortage.

It's partly that, and an attempt at more consistent ignition. I've seen a test from an honest shooter showing the accuracy potential pretty even with a cartridge gun. as far as primers go, it makes a great survivalist option.

[argon99]

This is not the first time this was tried.
Seems to me they are fixing a non problem,

My Thompson Scout never misfired with standard caps, but if you would like a hotter spark get an in line that uses shotgun primers.

I suspect that the real reason is in some states you can't seal the ignition system from the elements. Meaning the cap or frizzen has to be exposed to the rain and wind to be used in the muzzle loading season. If memory serves CO is one of the states that have this restriction. If one has an ignition system that isn't exposed then it will not be effected by rain and wind.

I know that a lot of people use 209 shotgun primers. I have a H&R Huntsman that uses them. I don't like them very much. I have read, and agree with, that the 209 primmer is too powerful. It can move the bullet off the charge before the charge has completely ignited. This gives inconsistent pressures so the shot placement is also inconsistent. I use the VariFlame Primer Adapter to fire small rifle primers in place of the 209 primer. This gives much better consistency. You can find them here:
http://muzzleloadingbullets.com/vari...r_adapter.html