Name that mill!

[toag]

Hey guys,

There is a mill for auction in a bit, and i got a picture from the auctioneer’s website. The head looks like a Toolmaster 1-D, but the knee has an extra hand crank in between the 2 that are supposed to be there). Also the ways are dovetailed, and every toolmaster i have seen have box ways. I ruled out the knee and saddle being a Tree, Gorton, Bridgeport (and clone). I didnt use search so forgive the faux pas. Anyways, whoever has the best/right answer gets a gold star, and a “like” on their next post! (also if the ownerof said mill posts you keep a pretty clean shop, please pm me!)
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[justanengineer]

Funny, I was thinking Toolmaster as well until you pointed to the extra handle and now I am rather confused.

I do know that on some later Cinci mills, they moved the X feed handle to the knee front, but the tiny pic makes this one appear to have standard handles also for the X, so I cannot understand what that handle could do.

Please post a larger/better pic and maybe we can tell.

[toag]

Thanks, got it sized a bit better. I went through tony's site (lathes.co.uk, for anyone who hasnt been there). Which should be my hpmepage for as often as i visit it. Couldnt find even a late model with that silly third handle. other than that and the dovetail ways, it looks like a toolmaster. Always wanted a Toolmaster (or a Gorton 1-22, or a Tree UVR2, ...), but now i'm not sure its even worth the gas to go to it, making a frankenmill is one thing, bidding on someone elses is just daffy duck silly.

[flylo]

You guys are the experts but it looks like a very deep table front to back couls it be like a radial drill press where the head moves front to back? Just an idea. I'd go to the auction, could go for cheap.

[martym]

I have a 1D Toolmaster and nothing on that machine appears to match up with a Toolmaster. The head is definitely not a "JR" or "KV" that are common on 1D toolmasters.

If I had to guess I'd say it looks kinda like an Induma from the '60's. I can remember one model of their mill had a "wheel" like that to set the feed rate.

I bought my Toolmaster for $600 from the original owner. If you can get this one for that kinda price I'd go for it.

[Toolguy]

It might be an Induma. We had one in a toolroom I worked at where the Y axis leadscrew was off to the side like that. I'm thinking the middle crank on the front is probably to set power feed speeds for the table, looks like maybe a rapid travel lever at the lower right side.
Regardless of make, it looks like a well built machine with some extras.

[Black_Moons]

I would name that mill george. I would take it home and pet it and stroke it and name it george. Oh wait I already said that part.

[lane]

That is a Cincinnati for sure. The middle handle is a feed dial to change the table feed . Look at the motor and gear box on the right side of the Knee down low and kind of hidden. Also notice the table direction handle to engage the table in the middle of the saddle . It has a green knob on it like Cincinnati used on their mills made in the 50`s and early 60`s That mill has a full powered Knee.The long handle on the left side is th raise are lower the knee under power and the leaver gust below the center of the ways on the knee move the table in and out on the y axis. Once again I know what I am talking about I used to run one about 30 years ago .

[Toolguy]

I would have to agree it does have a lot of Cincinnati type features. I didn't know they made one that small if that's what it turns out to be.

[macona]

Looks like is has power feed built in. Maybe it is for adjusting the feed speed. I don't see external gearbox controls.