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  • #16
    Ah, so you didn't jump very high. Hehe. Is the toolpost on your student a genuine Dickson? If it is finding tool holders is like rocking horse s**t. There must be zillions of them around, but I don't know what happens to them. If you are interested there is a Colchester lathe user group up on Yahoo. It's a bit slow, they don't share a lot of what they have been doing etc. The most common topic would be converting single phase power to run them and a close second would be oil. It is amazing how much discussion this can produce. The wheel keeps on getting invented all the time, hehe.

    John.

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    • #17
      I suppose it is a Dickson. I saw quite a few at an auction some months back but I had no use for the large ones at the time.
      ( Maybe a good project when the shaper is up and running )
      I have a smaller QCTP off a Bantam with 3 holders that may end up as a rear toolpost for the Student
      I'm on the yahoo site and it isn't as immediate as HSM and probably not as well resourced but useful and interesting all the same.
      I'm working on a new design for the wheel at present, I think I may call it the self braking large radiused Octogon. I have yet to do market research though

      cheers, Ken
      Ken.

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      • #18
        Hi again Ken, you sure get around a lot more than I do. When I got my Triumph it had one holder, a Dickson of course. They are original equip on colchesters, although not nessasarily standard equip. They are a good post. You can still get new ones and holders for them but they cost an arm & leg. I changed over to a Italian Rapidue type which look exactly the same, but not interchangeable. I thought some day I may make a mount to fit the Dickson on the back of the cross slide, I have used this arangement b4 and it is very handy. Only having one holder for it would not be a problem. Yes making some holders would be a good project. The only challenge I can see is getting the double vee's exactly the right distance, the rest is pretty basic. Now that I have changed over I can get more holders at resonable cost and the genuine holders are hardened & ground, very ridged and repeatedly accurate. I saw some nice little Colchester Bantums the other day & I saw a very nice Triumph. Made mine look shabby. Ar well mine may have a few dings & chips on it but it all works ok. Well I hope you get your Coley going on 3ph, then it will work like it should.

        John.

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        • #19
          Hey John, I might get around a lot more but I bet you move faster than I do Yeah, those holders went for maybe $20 a unit from memory ( not reliable though ).
          Were the Bantums at Chevpac? They have/had some very clean units from Singapore. I believe, some with taper turning.

          "Italian Rapidue A holders do fit although all dimesions are not identical. $145+GST each spare holder & we have them ex-stock."

          This is the info I was given by a certain machinery dealer.....suitably ambiguous perhaps??

          cheers, Ken



          [This message has been edited by speedy (edited 02-11-2005).]
          Ken.

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          • #20
            hi,ken.
            that new wheel of yours better have some nice thick foam on the seat(if supplied) .i'd appreciate a pic of your steady,i only have the travelling steady for mine.although to be honest,i haven't missed it yet .A qctp is on mty "to do"list,i 'm thinking it's best to get a long piece of,say,100x40 flat,put in the dovetail,and then slice it like a loaf of bread.That dovetail cutter is an expensive beast though .still,i've seen the italian toolpost,it's nice,but a bit rich for my blood.)besides,doing it yourself is much more satisfying!nice and cool today,only22.last wednesday,the thermometer in my w/shop said 36 degrees!with the fan on!cheers.

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            Hans
            Hans

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            • #21
              Ha Ken, $20 each Oh well got to be in the right place at the right time I guess if they were the right ones.
              Yea that is where the Bantum's were. Didn't take a lot of notice but they looked quite saleable machines. They would be a nice price too I guess but since I was only being nosey I didn't ask.
              Hmm the A size may fit the smaller posts I wouldn't know, but there wasn't a size to swap over to the size I had. Much bigger of course. Yea they are expencive compared to what the guys talk about over in the USA for the dovetail ones.
              Hey Ken if you see a good large shaper around any where let me know. Doesn't matter if it weighs a ton and is 3ph. Only ever used one once when doing my apprenticeship. Wouldn't mind one to do slotting. Should be able to pick up a big old shaper for less than a slotting head.

              John.

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              • #22
                Hi ya Hans, I will get some good shots and measurements of the fixed steady for you in the next few days. I will see what else is there also and email you.

                John, I know of a large Elliot Invicta 4M going for scrap value. There is no vise and it really is too big for my workshop, even though I would lover to have it here. I will email my ph # , give me a call.

                cheers, Ken
                Ken.

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                • #23
                  <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by matador:
                  hi,ken.
                  that new wheel of yours better have some nice thick foam on the seat(if supplied) .i'd appreciate a pic of your steady,i only have the travelling steady for mine.although to be honest,i haven't missed it yet .A qctp is on mty "to do"list,i 'm thinking it's best to get a long piece of,say,100x40 flat,put in the dovetail,and then slice it like a loaf of bread.That dovetail cutter is an expensive beast though .still,i've seen the italian toolpost,it's nice,but a bit rich for my blood.)besides,doing it yourself is much more satisfying!nice and cool today,only22.last wednesday,the thermometer in my w/shop said 36 degrees!with the fan on!cheers.

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                  Hi Hans
                  I have a dovetail cutter if you want to borrow it, then there is no excuse for not designing me a QCTP.
                  Mike

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                  • #24
                    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by zl1byz:
                    Hey Ken if you see a good large shaper around any where let me know. Doesn't matter if it weighs a ton and is 3ph. Only ever used one once when doing my apprenticeship. Wouldn't mind one to do slotting. Should be able to pick up a big old shaper for less than a slotting head.

                    John.
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                    John here is one over in the BOP with a vice you could always ask for a relist.

                    http://www.trademe.co.nz/Business-in...n-21658628.htm

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