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  • Stanko
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    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by zl1byz:
    Hey Ken if you see a good large shaper around any where let me know. Doesn't matter if it weighs a ton and is 3ph. Only ever used one once when doing my apprenticeship. Wouldn't mind one to do slotting. Should be able to pick up a big old shaper for less than a slotting head.

    John.
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    John here is one over in the BOP with a vice you could always ask for a relist.

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/Business-in...n-21658628.htm

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  • Stanko
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    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by matador:
    hi,ken.
    that new wheel of yours better have some nice thick foam on the seat(if supplied) .i'd appreciate a pic of your steady,i only have the travelling steady for mine.although to be honest,i haven't missed it yet .A qctp is on mty "to do"list,i 'm thinking it's best to get a long piece of,say,100x40 flat,put in the dovetail,and then slice it like a loaf of bread.That dovetail cutter is an expensive beast though .still,i've seen the italian toolpost,it's nice,but a bit rich for my blood.)besides,doing it yourself is much more satisfying!nice and cool today,only22.last wednesday,the thermometer in my w/shop said 36 degrees!with the fan on!cheers.

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    Hi Hans
    I have a dovetail cutter if you want to borrow it, then there is no excuse for not designing me a QCTP.
    Mike

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  • speedy
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    Hi ya Hans, I will get some good shots and measurements of the fixed steady for you in the next few days. I will see what else is there also and email you.

    John, I know of a large Elliot Invicta 4M going for scrap value. There is no vise and it really is too big for my workshop, even though I would lover to have it here. I will email my ph # , give me a call.

    cheers, Ken

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  • zl1byz
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    Ha Ken, $20 each Oh well got to be in the right place at the right time I guess if they were the right ones.
    Yea that is where the Bantum's were. Didn't take a lot of notice but they looked quite saleable machines. They would be a nice price too I guess but since I was only being nosey I didn't ask.
    Hmm the A size may fit the smaller posts I wouldn't know, but there wasn't a size to swap over to the size I had. Much bigger of course. Yea they are expencive compared to what the guys talk about over in the USA for the dovetail ones.
    Hey Ken if you see a good large shaper around any where let me know. Doesn't matter if it weighs a ton and is 3ph. Only ever used one once when doing my apprenticeship. Wouldn't mind one to do slotting. Should be able to pick up a big old shaper for less than a slotting head.

    John.

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  • matador
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    hi,ken.
    that new wheel of yours better have some nice thick foam on the seat(if supplied) .i'd appreciate a pic of your steady,i only have the travelling steady for mine.although to be honest,i haven't missed it yet .A qctp is on mty "to do"list,i 'm thinking it's best to get a long piece of,say,100x40 flat,put in the dovetail,and then slice it like a loaf of bread.That dovetail cutter is an expensive beast though .still,i've seen the italian toolpost,it's nice,but a bit rich for my blood.)besides,doing it yourself is much more satisfying!nice and cool today,only22.last wednesday,the thermometer in my w/shop said 36 degrees!with the fan on!cheers.

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    Hans

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  • speedy
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    Hey John, I might get around a lot more but I bet you move faster than I do Yeah, those holders went for maybe $20 a unit from memory ( not reliable though ).
    Were the Bantums at Chevpac? They have/had some very clean units from Singapore. I believe, some with taper turning.

    "Italian Rapidue A holders do fit although all dimesions are not identical. $145+GST each spare holder & we have them ex-stock."

    This is the info I was given by a certain machinery dealer.....suitably ambiguous perhaps??

    cheers, Ken



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  • zl1byz
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    Hi again Ken, you sure get around a lot more than I do. When I got my Triumph it had one holder, a Dickson of course. They are original equip on colchesters, although not nessasarily standard equip. They are a good post. You can still get new ones and holders for them but they cost an arm & leg. I changed over to a Italian Rapidue type which look exactly the same, but not interchangeable. I thought some day I may make a mount to fit the Dickson on the back of the cross slide, I have used this arangement b4 and it is very handy. Only having one holder for it would not be a problem. Yes making some holders would be a good project. The only challenge I can see is getting the double vee's exactly the right distance, the rest is pretty basic. Now that I have changed over I can get more holders at resonable cost and the genuine holders are hardened & ground, very ridged and repeatedly accurate. I saw some nice little Colchester Bantums the other day & I saw a very nice Triumph. Made mine look shabby. Ar well mine may have a few dings & chips on it but it all works ok. Well I hope you get your Coley going on 3ph, then it will work like it should.

    John.

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  • speedy
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    I suppose it is a Dickson. I saw quite a few at an auction some months back but I had no use for the large ones at the time.
    ( Maybe a good project when the shaper is up and running )
    I have a smaller QCTP off a Bantam with 3 holders that may end up as a rear toolpost for the Student
    I'm on the yahoo site and it isn't as immediate as HSM and probably not as well resourced but useful and interesting all the same.
    I'm working on a new design for the wheel at present, I think I may call it the self braking large radiused Octogon. I have yet to do market research though

    cheers, Ken

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  • zl1byz
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    Ah, so you didn't jump very high. Hehe. Is the toolpost on your student a genuine Dickson? If it is finding tool holders is like rocking horse s**t. There must be zillions of them around, but I don't know what happens to them. If you are interested there is a Colchester lathe user group up on Yahoo. It's a bit slow, they don't share a lot of what they have been doing etc. The most common topic would be converting single phase power to run them and a close second would be oil. It is amazing how much discussion this can produce. The wheel keeps on getting invented all the time, hehe.

    John.

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  • speedy
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    I'm back, no real harm done.....besides I can't jump very high anyway .

    Hi Mike, how are you handling the heat down there?? it's killing me at times up here. Maybe a case for instituting compulsery Summer siestas?
    Thanks for the offer, if you can get a price and some specs that would be good.

    The motor plate says:
    AEI - Kapak induction motor #FB 2304.9003 - 3hp 3ph - size 0.90L - 8.75 amps -220/250-380/440 volts - star/delta connection - 1380 rpm.

    I had a look at the lathe, spares would be good but I have to refrain as space is at a premium at present.
    Some spare train gears and tool holders would be nice though I must keep my eyes open for some.

    cheers, Ken


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  • Stanko
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    Hi Ken,
    So it made the trip ok then.
    I am buying some drives for work that are single to 3 phase If you get the details off the motor (current etc) I can get you a price. The place is called Drive Dynamics and is located next door to where I work.
    I see there is a Student on trade Me last night maybe you should get it for a spare !

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  • zl1byz
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    Hey Ken!!

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  • speedy
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    See, there you go again!......I'm gonna jump NOW! take care Allan

    cheers , Ken

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  • Allan Waterfall
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    Wot you mean,constant digs,I've not mentioned it since last year,probably next due about Easter..

    Allan

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  • speedy
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    Thanks Rover, I'm a big fan of Chinese made ( food, that is )
    Myford?.....Oh yes I had almost forgotten until you reminded me ( once again )...Allan I'm a sensitive, caring soul and your constant digs at my inactivety is begining to take its' toll; I'm at the end of my tether and I don't think that I can take anymore, I think I will jump from a great height

    cheers, Ken

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