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    I've been looking high and low for a good shear for my shop... The best deal I've been able to find so far is the Grizzly G5772..

    The only problem is I hate Grizzly.. Does anyone know where a machine with the same specs, same price could be found?



    I need something that will cut 16 gauge mild steel, and 14 guage aluminum..

    -Adrian

  • #2
    Enco. Be warned: when they say it will shear 16 ga they mean barely. It takes a hell of a foot shear to cut 16 ga consistantly. First thing I'd do is install a good work hold down on it. As soon as these over-rated shears get a little time on their knives they scoot the work in the cut.

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    • #3

      Enco is not even in the ballpark... Their only 52" x 16 guage (20 guage for stainless) foot sheer is $2659.95 (#505-1375):



      The Grizzly 52" x 16 guage goot shear (same specs) is $975:

      http://www.grizzly.com/products/item...emNumber=G5772

      I'm looking for the same 52" x 16 guage foot shear from someone other than Grizzly. If I have to, I'll give my business to Grizzly, but I'd rather pay a little more or anyone else.

      -Adrian

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      • #4
        I've also looked for one of these shears and your right no one else even comes close to the price if you buy from grizzly let me know how it works out for you.

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        • #5
          <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by pokey:
          I've also looked for one of these shears and your right no one else even comes close to the price if you buy from grizzly let me know how it works out for you.
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          I've been burned by Grizzly in the past, so I'm not interested in burning myself again.. I'd rather TIG a hole in my finger than give my business to Grizzly again.. Hopefully someone knows of a distributor that has the same 52" x 16 guage foot shear for around $1k like Grizzly.

          -Adrian


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          • #6

            The Harbor Freight unit (52" x 20 Ga) @ $929 looks like the same machine that Grizzly is selling for $975 (52" x 16 Ga)... They weigh the same but Harbor Freight says 20 ga capacity, and Grizzly is saying 16 ga capacity.

            I wonder if Grizzly is just saying their unit is 16 ga because they were able to cut 16 ga with it... I wouldn't be surprised.. I would think either HF has under rated theirs, or Grizzly has grossly over rated theirs.. Both machines seem to have the same weight... I would think the weight and structural difference between a 16ga machine and a 20ga machine would be eye poking.

            http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=1733

            -Adrian

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            • #7
              If you are going to do any amount of shearing of 16 gage steel in 48" wide pieces I would buy a Pexto 52" made by Roper Whitney. I have owned 2 of them and they work great. Still have one now and cut steel, stainless and aluminum. They cost about $2,500 or so today but are well worth it. You can find used one on ebay. I have not used a Tennsmith but have been told they are pretty good. Old Di acro shears are also very good but they are expensive even used.

              Joe

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              • #8
                I don't plan on doing a lot of cuts. Most of my cuts will be in .063 and a little .100" alum. The Pexto's are nice, but I don;t want to spend much over $1k for a shear due to the limited use it will get. I probably could do everything with one of those 30" 3-in-1 machines, but I'm trying to go with a 52" 16ga machine.

                -Adrian

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                • #9
                  Look for a used 52" american made shear for $1000, they do exist. There was a 52" G series that sold for about $1,300 on ebay not long ago. If it would have been closer I would have bid on it. That shear is a gap shear that will make multipal cut in 52" long cuts. You will be much happier in the long run. The 3 in 1 machines are not that good.

                  Joe

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                  • #10
                    Hey Joe,

                    Thanks for the info. My experience with shears has been limited. Here are the some of the shears available in the local wantads where I live.. Does any of these stand out to you?


                    WHITNEY ANGLE IRON NOTCHER, UNIVERSAL BENDER & FLR STAND. Shear missing. $275;

                    HENDLEY & WHITTEMORE #53 PUNCH PRESS. This is a flywheel mach w/foot pedal. Vy durable. It has a punch station & a shear station. Lots of punches incl w/mach. $1000/bo;

                    USED TENNSMITH T52 FOOT SHEAR. Will shear 52' of 16 gauge mild steel. Exc cond. $1600;

                    PEXTO 6' 16 GAUGE GAP SHEAR. Older style overdriven flywhl type. Gd working cond. $2900;

                    SHEET METAL SHEAR. 1986. 3' Enco jump shear in gd cond. $300/bo;

                    SHEET METAL STOMP SHEAR PEXTO. 36". Gd operating cond. $850;


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                    • #11
                      A thought for you...

                      Good sheet metal tools (used or new) are expensive, bulky and in my case not used every day. Also in sheet metal tools, cheap and shoddy workmanship show up quickly. Almost every 3-in-1 Asian combination sheet metal tool I have seen in person has been a POS. This might have been an coincidence but it convinced me that buying older American iron was definitely the way to go.

                      The compromise I made was to acquire used 24" Diacro equipment for bending, shearing and rolling and a 36" Pexto foot shear for larger cuts. While it is true that I can't handle 48" wide sheets for the initial cuts, I can easily have that one cut done locally at minimum cost without having a large bulky shear that is seldom used taking up valuable shop space. It is like having a long metal lathe where majority of the work done is accomplished within the first twelve inches of the headstock. For me, having the larger shear would be a waste of money and space because I work with smaller sections most often.

                      Something to consider....

                      Good luck with the search and let us know how what you end up getting.

                      TMT

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                      • #12
                        Tennsmith, Famco, Pexto, National and Tinknocker are all pretty good machines. I believe these are all made in USA. Of course, you pay the price. If you can find a 52" in good shape from this list for $1000 or less, JUMP ON IT! The "going rate" for a used 36" is around $800.

                        For new equipment at about $1000, your only choice will be Grizzly, Enco, Harbor Freight, Jet and the other private lables. These are all made in China. 16ga. is pushing the limit on these and could result in broken dies.

                        I just noticed the pic of the Enco model you show looks like a National. That's the reason for the higher price.



                        [This message has been edited by CCWKen (edited 04-23-2005).]

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                        • #13
                          <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CCWKen:
                          For new equipment at about $1000, your only choice will be Grizzly, Enco, Harbor Freight, Jet and the other private lables.</font>
                          Yea the Enco model was a National Made in the USA... I couldn't find a china 52" x 16ga foot shear from Enco though.. Enco has a 52" x 20ga unit for $1k, Harbor Freight has a 20ga unit for $1k, and Grizzly has a 16ga unit for $1k....

                          I think the Grizzly unit is probably the same as the 20ga units being sold by Enco and HF -- except Grizzly is probably just saying 16ga because that's how they are.. Bastards.

                          -Adrian

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                          • #14
                            The Tennsmith is probably the best buy in the list. Think the price is a little high but not by a lot. If it is local take a look at it and make an offer. Try $1300 and see what happens. Don't know what you are going to make but the 52" is great for initial cuts from a large full sheet 4 x 8 or 10. Then you make smaller cuts.
                            There is other equipment that makes working sheet metal a lot easier. I have a Tennsmith 6x6 notcher for cutting corner out, a large bead roller made by Pexto and a Roper Whitney punch #7 IIRC and a 5XX. I also have a 6" and 12" Di Acro shear and the same sizes of finger brakes. The brake I use the most is a Magnabend electro magnetic 52" sold by Roper Whitney. This is the most useful brake that I have ever seen. The only Asian piece of sheet metal equipment I have is a 50" sliproll and I don't use it much. It is not as good as the american sliprolls that I have used. I'm looking for a 12" Di Acro sliproll used at a reasonable price. The Di Acro equipment is really top notch but it isn't cheap even used.

                            Joe

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                            • #15

                              I found several other 52" 16 gauge foot shears and it does seem like the Grizzly is the best deal so I bit my tonge and ordered one from Grizzly.. Hopefully Grizzly doesn't let me down again. We'll see.

                              -Adrian

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