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    This is one of the better analysis of the situation in NO that I've seen yet.
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    An Unnatural Disaster: A Hurricane Exposes the Man-Made Disaster of the Welfare State

    by Robert Tracinski
    Sep 02, 2005
    by Robert Tracinski
    It has taken four long days for state and federal officials to figure out how to deal with the disaster in New Orleans. I can't blame them, because it has also taken me four long days to figure out what is going on there. The reason is that the events there make no sense if you think that we are confronting a natural disaster.

    If this is just a natural disaster, the response for public officials is obvious: you bring in food, water, and doctors; you send transportation to evacuate refugees to temporary shelters; you send engineers to stop the flooding and rebuild the city's infrastructure. For journalists, natural disasters also have a familiar pattern: the heroism of ordinary people pulling together to survive; the hard work and dedication of doctors, nurses, and rescue workers; the steps being taken to clean up and rebuild.

    Public officials did not expect that the first thing they would have to do is to send thousands of armed troops in armored vehicle, as if they are suppressing an enemy insurgency. And journalists--myself included--did not expect that the story would not be about rain, wind, and flooding, but about rape, murder, and looting.

    But this is not a natural disaster. It is a man-made disaster.

    The man-made disaster is not an inadequate or incompetent response by federal relief agencies, and it was not directly caused by Hurricane Katrina. This is where just about every newspaper and television channel has gotten the story wrong.

    The man-made disaster we are now witnessing in New Orleans did not happen over the past four days. It happened over the past four decades. Hurricane Katrina merely exposed it to public view.

    The man-made disaster is the welfare state.

    For the past few days, I have found the news from New Orleans to be confusing. People were not behaving as you would expect them to behave in an emergency--indeed, they were not behaving as they have behaved in other emergencies. That is what has shocked so many people: they have been saying that this is not what we expect from America. In fact, it is not even what we expect from a Third World country.

    When confronted with a disaster, people usually rise to the occasion. They work together to rescue people in danger, and they spontaneously organize to keep order and solve problems. This is especially true in America. We are an enterprising people, used to relying on our own initiative rather than waiting around for the government to take care of us. I have seen this a hundred times, in small examples (a small town whose main traffic light had gone out, causing ordinary citizens to get out of their cars and serve as impromptu traffic cops, directing cars through the intersection) and large ones (the spontaneous response of New Yorkers to September 11).

    So what explains the chaos in New Orleans?

    To give you an idea of the magnitude of what is going on, here is a description from a Washington Times story:

    "Storm victims are raped and beaten; fights erupt with flying fists, knives and guns; fires are breaking out; corpses litter the streets; and police and rescue helicopters are repeatedly fired on.

    "The plea from Mayor C. Ray Nagin came even as National Guardsmen poured in to restore order and stop the looting, carjackings and gunfire....

    "Last night, Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco said 300 Iraq-hardened Arkansas National Guard members were inside New Orleans with shoot-to-kill orders.

    " 'These troops are...under my orders to restore order in the streets,' she said. 'They have M-16s, and they are locked and loaded. These troops know how to shoot and kill and they are more than willing to do so if necessary and I expect they will.' "

    The reference to Iraq is eerie. The photo that accompanies this article shows National Guard troops, with rifles and armored vests, riding on an armored vehicle through trash-strewn streets lined by a rabble of squalid, listless people, one of whom appears to be yelling at them. It looks exactly like a scene from Sadr City in Baghdad.

    What explains bands of thugs using a natural disaster as an excuse for an orgy of looting, armed robbery, and rape? What causes unruly mobs to storm the very buses that have arrived to evacuate them, causing the drivers to drive away, frightened for their lives? What causes people to attack the doctors trying to treat patients at the Super Dome?

    Why are people responding to natural destruction by causing further destruction? Why are they attacking the people who are trying to help them?

    My wife, Sherri, figured it out first, and she figured it out on a sense-of-life level. While watching the coverage last night on Fox News Channel, she told me that she was getting a familiar feeling. She studied architecture at the Illinois Institute of Chicago, which is located in the South Side of Chicago just blocks away from the Robert Taylor Homes, one of the largest high-rise public housing projects in America. "The projects," as they were known, were infamous for uncontrollable crime and irremediable squalor. (They have since, mercifully, been demolished.)

    What Sherri was getting from last night's television coverage was a whiff of the sense of life of "the projects." Then the "crawl"--the informational phrases flashed at the bottom of the screen on most news channels--gave some vital statistics to confirm this sense: 75% of the residents of New Orleans had already evacuated before the hurricane, and of the 300,000 or so who remained, a large number were from the city's public housing projects. Jack Wakeland then gave me an additional, crucial fact: early reports from CNN and Fox indicated that the city had no plan for evacuating all of the prisoners in the city's jails--so they just let many of them loose. There is no doubt a significant overlap between these two populations--that is, a large number of people in the jails used to live in the housing projects, and vice versa.

    There were many decent, innocent people trapped in New Orleans when the deluge hit--but they were trapped alongside large numbers of people from two groups: criminals--and wards of the welfare state, people selected, over decades, for their lack of initiative and self-induced helplessness. The welfare wards were a mass of sheep--on whom the incompetent administration of New Orleans unleashed a pack of wolves.

    All of this is related, incidentally, to the apparent incompetence of the city government, which failed to plan for a total evacuation of the city, despite the knowledge that this might be necessary. But in a city corrupted by the welfare state, the job of city officials is to ensure the flow of handouts to welfare recipients and patronage to political supporters--not to ensure a lawful, orderly evacuation in case of emergency.

    No one has really reported this story, as far as I can tell. In fact, some are already actively distorting it, blaming President Bush, for example, for failing to personally ensure that the Mayor of New Orleans had drafted an adequate evacuation plan. The worst example is an execrable piece from the Toronto Globe and Mail, by a supercilious Canadian who blames the chaos on American "individualism." But the truth is precisely the opposite: the chaos was caused by a system that was the exact opposite of individualism.

    What Hurricane Katrina exposed was the psychological consequences of the welfare state. What we consider "normal" behavior in an emergency is behavior that is normal for people who have values and take the responsibility to pursue and protect them. People with values respond to a disaster by fighting against it and doing whatever it takes to overcome the difficulties they face. They don't sit around and complain that the government hasn't taken care of them. They don't use the chaos of a disaster as an opportunity to prey on their fellow men.

    But what about criminals and welfare parasites? Do they worry about saving their houses and property? They don't, because they don't own anything. Do they worry about what is going to happen to their businesses or how they are going to make a living? They never worried about those things before. Do they worry about crime and looting? But living off of stolen wealth is a way of life for them.

    The welfare state--and the brutish, uncivilized mentality it sustains and encourages--is the man-made disaster that explains the moral ugliness that has swamped New Orleans. And that is the story that no one is reporting.

    Source: TIA Daily -- September 2, 2005
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    http://tiadaily.com/php-bin/news/sho...le.php?id=1026

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    Well, IMO that's total bull****.
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    • #3
      Probably a dose of bullcrap, but think of this.

      We left the disabled sick, helpless people there at the mercy (none) of the lowlife types the article described. Each race has them. Self made morons/poverty stricken people who sit on thier duff trying to get a free ride out of life.

      May god bless the innocent, and have justice on the cruel and inhumane.
      David

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      • #4
        Well, IMO, the author has summed up the problem pretty well.

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        • #5
          SGW, More than likely, closer to the truth than you would like to believe. IMO.
          Jim, By the river enjoying life...

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          • #6
            good afternoon.

            i think Mr. Wayne02 has a handle on this.

            what we have created is a whole class of people who believe that 'the government' is going to 'take care of them'. i cannot understand why they feel this way, but then i am a vietnam veteran, and i have a pretty good idea of how the government takes care of people.

            to what Mr. 02 said, i would add that one must be ready to protect and defend his own, because the government sure as hell isn't going to do it. a few well placed rounds would have stopped the raping, looting, and barbarism in it's tracks. perhaps you think that is harsh, but what these animals were doing to other people is pretty harsh too. we have been too damned busy being 'politically correct' to retain sight of plain old fashioned values and responsibilities. *i* am responsible for the protection and defense of my children and my home. so are you.

            and if you sit back in front of your tv and ignore this fact, you are the lawful [or not] prey of the animals we are discussing.

            now thay have brought 154,000 of these people who didn't have any better sense than to get the hell out of the way of a hurricane to Texas. you may be assured that my sons and i are completely ready and able to defend our home, both against 'them' and anyone or anything else that threatens it.

            it has been said that some of these people had no way to evacuate. most of the ones i have seen had 2 feet and were ambulatory. why couldn't they walk if they had no other way to go? the high ground is the high ground regardless of where you are. no one but a fool would stay in a city that the majority of is below sea level in the face of a category 5 hurricane or any other one for that matter. i am certain that those few of the residents of new orleans who were unable to walk *could* have found some way out had they been interested in doing that.

            it is long past time to quit saying 'it isn't going to happen here' because it is happening everywhere. hide and watch. the probl;ems of new orleans have been shipped elsewhere, but they will be the same old problems unless we as individuals do something to prevent it. it is long past the time for tolerance of the kinds of behavior that we have seen so recently. the government isn't going to 'be there' for the people who have inherited these problems any more than it was there for the residents of new orleans.

            if i piss you off i am glad because people need to be pissed off and do something about it before it is too late.

            peace.
            bill

            ........i dremel. therefore i am..........................

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            • #7
              And I would expect the writer has a "solution".





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              • #8
                Gene, Why would you expect the writer of the article to have a solution?
                Jim, By the river enjoying life...

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                • #9
                  Walk a mile in the man's shoes-----

                  Not as a tourist, but, having caught more than one helicopter out of Grand Isle to the oil platforms, played engineer on two six month projects in Nuawlins and visited same while in the spring vacation phases of my college drinking days, Wayne02 has very politely penned an accurate take on an ugly situation.

                  G

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                  • #10
                    Heard on the news a few days ago the statement:
                    "How could this happen here in this great country" The answer is that we are not as great as we think we are. This situation ought to be a big reality check on how we've messed up the greatest country in history by going away from our traditional values and practicing socialism and communism instead. When things were fubar on the beaches of D-Day, the side with the can-do attitude prevaled. Now all we hear is "the government isn't taking care of me like they ought to" Notice much difference in this crises between how we've handled it vs. how the soviets handled problems? It is only going to get worse until we figure this out.

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                    • #11
                      Sometimes some of the retoric I hear sounds like some of these speeches. And yes I can and will forever point out the similarities of what I have been hearing of late.
                      http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goebmain.htm
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                      • #12
                        And the people said Amen brother. The liberals folks want to bitch and moan about it being the presidents fault he didn't do something more. I have done my best to avoid saying the exact same thing the author said, but I have said it was the fault of the folks that stayed behind that they were left in the mess the were left in. Wise up folks, you and you alone are responsible for your own safety, not the govt of the city, state, or federal govt. If you sit on your butt and let someone take care of you, then you will be left to the mercy of the situation which is what occurred.

                        The author is 100% correct in the fact that the melay was created years ago and was just unleashed by the aftermath of the storm. The city planners built the levees back to only withstand a class 3 storm and had no plan to comepletely evacuate the city. They had 4 days notice of the approaching storm and sat back and did nothing to get everyone out. You give me 4 days notice and I could move everyone out of my city including the infirmed and the hospitals. Anyone left behind would choose to stay like so many did and would be left on their own to survive which is what happened. In 4 days they could have moved the criminals out if they chose too. So like I have been saying, quit blaming anyone but the ones at fault. I believe it was the Democrats that started welfare and kept it going. It was those same Democrats that cry out why didn't someone else do something as well! Truth hurts I guess.

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                        • #13
                          Wayne is correct.

                          I know because I worked as an inner city paramedic for years and we spent a lot of time responding to the projects.

                          I have been doing CPR on someones grandma in a filthy rouch infested apartment when one of the "chillins" asked me for free condoms.

                          I have picked grandma up out of a shotgun house lying in so much filth that we left a trail of maggots behind the stretcher.

                          I had a windshield busted out by a brick while responding to a call.

                          I have been surrounded by a threatening angry mob for waiting for backup before entering a multi-story project where one of our crews was attacked a week before. The call was for a kid with a tick on his ear.

                          All calls were for "chest pain" because they have learned that it is an emergency no matter what kind of trivial **** we roll for.

                          There was a McDonalds at the hospital so they would insist on being transported to the hospital and then we'd see them buying a hamburger later.

                          I worked at an indigent care hospital (ICU) and had them ask if we could keep grandma on the vent a few more days so they could get the check.

                          They'd swarm the unit on the 1'st trying to get grandma to sign the check even though she was on a ventilator.

                          I'm not political, I don't like Bush or Kerry or Sonny Perdue. The only things I care about are the school board and the city council and local leaders.

                          40 years of public welfare has created a criminal underclass clustered in cities all around the country.

                          I doubt if a lot of you know anything about how things work in the inner city.

                          I HAVE SEEN IT UP CLOSE AND IT SCARED THE HELL OUT OF ME.

                          Anyway, I got an Aloris tool post for my 13" Southbend



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                          • #14
                            I am in contact with a "sister" church of ours from New Orleans. It appears that working together, they all got out of New Orleans, except one they could not contact. After evacuating, they were still in the area hit by the hurricane and one was killed. They held church today in the home of one of the members' relatives. They have a generator and a working cell phone, and all are taking care of one another. No government help.

                            Another two church groups in Northern Louisiana set up as shelters. One of them got a bunch of families from N.O. The other got a bunch of "single guys." The former was OK, but the latter started tearing everything up, fighting, and stealing, so they had to get the police in to run them out. Undaunted, they cleaned the place up and asked for more evacuees, just not single men. They got the evacuees from an institution for Down's Syndrome, and are glad to be able to help them.

                            Anecdotally, much of the article Wayne02 quotes appears to be true. Some are civilized. Some are not. Some are real victims and need another person to care for them.

                            I have to say that I was struck by the entitlement mentality expressed by some on the news. One, particularly, fumed that it had been two days (in MS) since the water was down, and "Where the hell is FEMA, I want them here! My house is ruined, and I want a trailer here NOW!"

                            All that said, I predict that when all the shouting is over, and we are far enough away from it that we aren't taking positions just for political points, we will see three big elements.

                            1. All the plans count on the "first responders," the local authorities, to bring the situation under control. The first responders here didn't. Probably they couldn't, but it sounds like they were led by somebody who didn't have the "can-do" spirit that was needed.
                            2. Once it became clear that the first responders couldn't, the plan wasn't abandoned. Bureaucrats have a hard time dumping the rules, and it was not clear that the cavalry had to be called in, not as followup, but in the first-responder role.
                            3. Individuals were not prepared. Emergency authorities say it all the time, plan to be on your own for ten days after a catastrophic crisis. Some are prepared, and they are still in their homes and plan to be there until the water drops. It was in MS more that the prepared were in trouble, because their houses blew away.
                            >>>>>But nobody is prepared if they think it is somebody else's job to take care of them.<<<<<
                            Ed Bryant

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                            • #15
                              "Anyway, I got an Aloris tool post for my 13" Southbend."

                              Did you pay for it with the money you saved by switching your car insurance to GEICO?

                              Here's another "must read" on the situation in NO:
                              http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9178815/...eek/?nav=slate

                              One excerpt: "Where have we gleaned the arrogant belief that if we suffer from a natural disaster, it must always somebody’s fault?"

                              Roger
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