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  • #16
    Yankee1, thanks I just ordered two from the local Northern. No shipping, but the in store price was $40 not $35 shown online.

    I wanted to go with something like 3Phase, but the cost was an issue.
    John

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    • #17
      My shop is small, only about 250 square feet, I'm thinking of getting one of the small propane furnaces like they use in RV's. They are a 'direct vent' (through the wall) type unit, output is from about 20,000BTU up to around 50,000 BTU, with a fan, and optional ducting too (I think the one in our RV trailer is 4" duct work.) Most will require a 12vdc supply for the fan, and that should be it.

      I do have a woodstove in it now, will likely leave it in, at least for a while. I just want something taht will keep it above freezing to keep the moisture levels down.

      Mark

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      • #18
        My shop is a converted 20' shipping container for the time being. It is pretty small But works. It is insulated & has power wired in all over. It was free! used to be a scale house.
        Nevertheless when I put my Bridgport in there I needed heat. I looked at Monitor Kero heaters...Gasp! the working man could not afford them. I found an Empire brand propane heater that fit the bill. Since my space is small I elected for the 10,000 BTU unit. They make them in several sizes

        It is a sealed direct vent, requires no electricity, has what is called a Millivolt thermostat on the wall. All for a managable $829 Usd Installed.( I cut the hole in the steel wall for them) It keeps my litle shop warm & is quite efficent. I insulated the heck outta the place. Since it vented outdoors there is no humidity problem. Bridgey, Lathey & the tools stay warm & rust free.

        You can get a fan option installed to move the air. But I use old condenser fans from refigerators to move air around. Quiet & cheep to run

        Now for what it is worth. I like to keep the heat on all the time. for what it costs to replace rusted tools I think heating is cheeper. The key is to insulate, insulate, insulate.

        The only thing I have left to do is make some kind of ventalation system for those smokey days!

        [This message has been edited by Warren (edited 12-09-2005).]
        Warren

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        • #19
          I like my kerosene heater, I have a small garage that has minimal insulation. I use it for small area heating when needed, and for the house when the power goes out. I tried those little top of the small tank propane heaters, the double head large tank things - nothing would create heat that would go out unless you stood right by the thing, and cost of fuel was rediculous for the heat gain I got.

          The kero heater I have is a 1000 foot heater Duraheat 2403 or something like that. Holds about 1.5 gallon of kerosene, and this goes about ten hours. Before major storms, I fill it up, and keep five gallons on hand - like today. It works with no electricity, and the storm we had where the power went out for 18 hours, or about short of three gallons, this heated my home quite well, and much safer that a propane heater. Also portable, so I can move it where I am while it is running. I also use it in the school shop on weekends as the heat is cut to 55 degrees as of 2:30 Friday until 4:00 a.m. Monday. I also take it in on the occassional Monday when the heat can't catch up....

          The smell factor bothers people, but we are machinists and work around smelly oils, coolants, and solvents..... There are also additives if you wish to cut the smell back. I would not know how they work, do not use them. Many tell me they make the smell better, and the burn better. The smell from Kero heaters is usually from the first five minutes of operation, and when shut off anyway, so when in the school shop, to keep the hollering from others down, I start it up outside, bring it in after five minutes, and then move it outside, hit the shut down, and leave it for about five minutes - nobody knows it is there.

          One thing about portable heaters - propane or kerosene. A major problem in New England is fires started from these things. Usually carelessness or improper placement. Have a fire extinguisher nearby in your shop, or your home, and do not run unattended.

          CCBW, MAH

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