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  • #91
    Originally posted by PStechPaul View Post
    It should be limited to a true city car, with top speed of 40 MPH. That might be survivable.
    Do you think all cars should be limited to a top speed that would be survivable in a head on collision with a concrete barrier?

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    • #92
      A person that works at my company has a smart car, and he was hosting a smart car fan club. They were all up in Ypsilanti trying their hand at flying the 747 simulator.
      Yes, there's an actual smart car fan club... 20+ Smart cars traveling together...

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      • #93
        Originally posted by RB211 View Post
        A person that works at my company has a smart car, and he was hosting a smart car fan club. They were all up in Ypsilanti trying their hand at flying the 747 simulator.
        Yes, there's an actual smart car fan club... 20+ Smart cars traveling together...
        All fun and games till you stop at taco bell for bean burrito's --- can you imagine the concentrated stink in a car that size?, they better have very fast working electric windows cuz god know's there's not enough room to fit a hand crank --- let alone be able to find the arm room to use it...

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        • #94
          Originally posted by A.K. Boomer View Post

          All fun and games till you stop at taco bell for bean burrito's --- can you imagine the concentrated stink in a car that size?, they better have very fast working electric windows cuz god know's there's not enough room to fit a hand crank --- let alone be able to find the arm room to use it...
          Think only thing missing on them is the pole going up to the electrical cage(carnival style bumper cars)

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Joel View Post
            No chance of survivability there. I have cut dead people out of cars with far less intrusion and much longer deceleration times. The best possible case is that they would have lived (sort of) a couple of minutes until they bled out the giant squashed holes where the legs used to be. The structure might have kept upper half of the body from getting too gooey, so the family might be able to have an open casket funeral...
            I do not disagree.....Get in any sort of medium accident, and you are gonna be messed up badly, one way or another. Knew someone who was out on her scooter (not a vespa) and got hit by a dump truck. The results in that cage might not be much different.... The dump truck would drive the cage right into you, seatbelts or not. airbags or not. Damn ugly. I'm not much for "banning" things, but.... at least on 2 wheels you know you are dead if you get hit, and watch out.

            Last edited by J Tiers; 02-14-2020, 10:16 PM.
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            • #96
              Sometimes two wheels give you an advantage of being able to take an alternative that cars or trucks simply don't have, not many riders even think about springing up and leaving the bike but it can be done to totally clear an accident --- don't know if this guy used that strategy but I always kept it in mind as a last ditch alternative --- I mean - if you know your dead just sitting there then do something different....

              this might have been just simple forward momentum and the rider being higher up, I totally believe in the trajectory, esp. if one is on the pegs and arms loaded, and it has happened before with the MC rider having a helmet cam view...
              https://youtu.be/17ig4WziQzM

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              • #97
                Due to the magic of modern electronics and accident avoidance technology we soon won't have to rely on luck when on two wheels.
                The video below from Germany clearly illustrates that crash-proofing MCs is almost here.

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                • #98
                  That had to sting a bit.......

                  But I am not sure it is actual.....
                  Last edited by J Tiers; 02-15-2020, 01:12 AM.
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Mcgyver View Post

                    Both you guys in several instances has made sure everyone knows you drive Prius, kind a like 3watt with his corvette <pot stirring smilie>
                    When discussing hybrids, it helps to specify which one you are discussing. The differences between hybrid technologies vary quite a bit so sweeping general statements are often incorrect when applied across the board. For example, you can get hybrids in a powerful/fast 500HP package from Porche or a gas efficient version based on simple engine stop/restart scheme in a Chevy pickup or an extremely low emissions model using inherently efficient engines and batteries for boost when needed from Toyota.

                    Of course, the same applies to EVs too. Some are small and slow but get long battery life while others are big and fast with a shorter battery life. Statements about a Nissan Leaf may or may not apply in any way to the Jaguar I-Pace.

                    So that's why some of us specify which cars we have experienced.
                    At the end of the project, there is a profound difference between spare parts and extra parts.

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                    • Originally posted by Jim Stewart View Post

                      That would be the Citroen 2CV (deux-chevaux or two horsepower). The few left now are in demand and command amazing prices at the exotic car dealers.

                      (Their bodies were made of corrugated steel.)

                      -js
                      Brilliant cars.
                      Cult, iconic, legendary cars right up there with the first Mini's, VW Beetles and the Fiat 500's.
                      Silly money now.
                      650cc air cooled flat twin. Outrageous suspension - like all Citroens - fantastic comfort and handling characteristics.

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                      • Originally posted by thaiguzzi View Post

                        Brilliant cars.
                        Cult, iconic, legendary cars right up there with the first Mini's, VW Beetles and the Fiat 500's.
                        Silly money now.
                        650cc air cooled flat twin. Outrageous suspension - like all Citroens - fantastic comfort and handling characteristics.
                        Citroens really did go nutz with suspension - was told it was because the french did not fix their roads lol

                        I remember details of the past cars iv worked on, worked on a few models of citroens that had one spoke steering wheel - V/6 Maserati engine and oh what a crazy suspension --- hydraulically controlled self leveling shock absorbers linked to a hydraulic mechanical "brain box" that was basically a 360 degree pendulum that opened and closed the appropriate ports during braking/acceleration/ and cornering,,, the car really had no "seat of the pants" feel to it --- you did not know how hard you were pushing it till the tires started barking at you, very strange to drive... take off fast - level --- brake hard - level ----- push the pig in a turn - level... Iv worked on just about everything that was built in the 60's and 70's and this was one of the most weirdest - although - there was lots of weird going around in those days. lol

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                        • Haven't you ever heard of solar panels or wind turbines?
                          wind turbines require more energy to build and transport than they produce. the instant the tax break goes away they are useless

                          solar panel production is an environmentally disastrous operation. it happens in China, so nobody cares.

                          both solar panels and wind turbines eventually become toxic waste

                          these are negative net value, negative energy production devices

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                          • That may have some validity, but not totally true. Tell us what your sources are, and I don't consider Breitbart, or Fox News, to be reliable.

                            Some better sources:

                            http://www.strata.org/wp-content/upl...t-of-Wind1.pdf

                            https://www.newsweek.com/true-benefi...d-power-323595

                            http://www.planetexperts.com/cost-be...is-wind-power/

                            https://www.energy.gov/eere/wind/adv...es-wind-energy

                            There may be similar analyses of solar power, but I'll let you make that effort if you want to validate your opinions. Otherwise, without factual data, that is all they are.
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                            • And keep in mind some of the analysis might be moot --- as we speak they are working at methods of extending panel life - recycling panels for further use or other purposes - same with wind turbines --- applying coatings to the blades that extend the rated intervals, that's just now, keep in mind with the some of the new stuff there's still a good 30 years of progress that has not been realized "yet" in re-purposing this stuff, all things considered --- coal takes energies to mind and transport and loses in BTU values converted to steam and then transmission of the electricity itself... no easy peasy solutions here except to realize that humanoids are the real problem - stop reproducing idiots... and stop reproducing "idiots"....... one in the same...


                              This morning I get a vit. supplement out of a brand new container 3 times the size needed and twice the wall thickness needed to actually do it's job, right there in packaging it's 6 times the waste --- what an idiotic species...

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                              • Originally posted by AD5MB View Post

                                wind turbines require more energy to build and transport than they produce. the instant the tax break goes away they are useless

                                solar panel production is an environmentally disastrous operation. it happens in China, so nobody cares.

                                both solar panels and wind turbines eventually become toxic waste

                                these are negative net value, negative energy production devices
                                That is questionable, to say the least.

                                Name sources for panels being toxic waste.

                                Name sources for turbines being toxic waste.

                                Name sources for the energy input vs produced energy.

                                And, then, do the same for, say, steel production, or even oil production and refining. Nearly anything can be made to look crazy if the "correct" accounting system and cost allocation is done. Like the accountants say, "how do you WANT the numbers to come out?".

                                Normally that is done by assigning the ENTIRE cost of shared resources to whatever the item is. Sort of like saying that turbines are shipped on trains, and trucks, and have a lot of steel in them, so we will assign the whole cost of trucks and trains, roads and rails and cranes used, plus the steel mills, to the turbines, and ignore the fact that those things have other uses.

                                As for production, the materials and processes are very similar to the ones used to produce the chips your computer is using, and the quantities of "disastrous" chemicals are fairly low. Plus, there are other types of panels, not all panels are made of traditional semiconductors. The normal semiconductor chip panels panels, once made, are essentially "glass" and a fairly common glue, details depending on producer.
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