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  • What is the next step up from Atlas, SB, Logan threaded spindles?

    What is the next up size lathe mentioned above.?
    The smallest L0, D1 mount, say 13x36 machine? (no threaded spindle nose)
    NO chinese,
    Used affordable american iron.
    Maybe taiwan, (maybe but not preferred)
    Single phase 220 power class
    All I can think of is Clausing 1300.
    What others is there to search for?
    10EE is 10x20 but it is too big, looking smaller than 10EE.
    What is in between Clausing 1300 and 10EE???
    Last edited by Ringo; 05-20-2020, 11:19 AM.

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    The D1-4 spindle is commonly found on 12 to 14 inch machines of various bed lengths, both foreign and domestic made.
    Kansas City area

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    • #3
      The newer SB Heavy Tens had D1 mount in the 1970's if you can find one at a reasonable price. There's Hardinge ($$$$) But I wouldn't hesitate to get a Clausing, they were good. Also Harrison (British). Recently I passed up on a 13x36 Pratt and Whitney because it weighed 6500 lbs and needed 3-phase. The seller was asking 1k. Take a look here, prices from lowest to highest: https://hgrinc.com/?all=1&view&aisle...rice&pn=1&slug

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      • #4
        Logan machines from 11" and up had options of L series spindles (at least) and hardened beds, etc. Sheldon also, and of course Clausing.
        1601

        Keep eye on ball.
        Hashim Khan

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        • #5
          BTW that link I just gave has a Monarch 12CK asking for $1400. 8 pages of deal like that....

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          • #6
            Originally posted by nickel-city-fab View Post
            BTW that link I just gave has a Monarch 12CK asking for $1400. 8 pages of deal like that....
            the Monarch 12CK is heavy for what I have in mind.
            I'm thinking of the Clausing, and whatever is in that weight range, Sheldon, South Bend are so old that they likely have lot of wear and no parts support.
            Clausing has parts support, and, newer machines.
            Whats else is in this same class?

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            • #7
              10ee is actually 12.5" swing.

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              • #8
                South Bend Fourteen may be what you want if you don't mind fixing the Reeve's drive electronics.
                21" Royersford Excelsior CamelBack Drillpress Restoration
                1943 Sidney 16x54 Lathe Restoration

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ringo View Post

                  the Monarch 12CK is heavy for what I have in mind.
                  I'm thinking of the Clausing, and whatever is in that weight range, Sheldon, South Bend are so old that they likely have lot of wear and no parts support.
                  Clausing has parts support, and, newer machines.
                  Whats else is in this same class?
                  Dunno, did LeBlond have anything in that size class? They have a pretty good reputation. The only other name I know is Standard Modern.

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                  • #10
                    Cam lock spindles, easy to live with..

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                    • #11
                      Stepperhead is a step above all of the above mentioned machines 😑

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by elf View Post
                        Stepperhead is a step above all of the above mentioned machines 😑
                        Wow. That's a thing of beauty. I get the feeling somebody spent their entire life building it.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by The Metal Butcher View Post
                          South Bend Fourteen may be what you want if you don't mind fixing the Reeve's drive electronics.
                          see, thats what I mean about the older machines,
                          The Clausing is still supported with parts.
                          The smallest LeBlond I know of is the 13 Regal, and it is a 13 such as the 10ee is a ten.

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                          • #14
                            I have a Atlas-Clausing 6300, This is a 12 inch Lathe but smaller than a 1300
                            Its about a 1963 age and Clausing still supports it for parts.
                            It has the following :

                            Large bore (1 3/8") Spindle
                            Long Bed ( Gun Lathe)
                            L00 Spindle ( Love it !)
                            Oil filled Quick Change Box (!)
                            Oil Filled Apron (!)
                            12-1/2" max Diameter
                            Anti-backlash change gears ( quiet , using split spring loaded gears )
                            Rich
                            The chuck in the photo is a 8 inch for scale
                            For some specs see Tony's Lathes UK-------http://www.lathes.co.uk/clausing/page2.html
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                            Green Bay, WI

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by nickel-city-fab View Post

                              Wow. That's a thing of beauty. I get the feeling somebody spent their entire life building it.
                              The builder, jackary, posts here occasionally.

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