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    We lived a short life as a hobby machinist, then the legs/feet gave way. Big time peripheral neuropathy. Local chiropractor (Bonecracker?) wants to treat with SANEXAS electrical stem., fifteen treatments over eight weeks period. Any experienced people around here with comments????????????

    Thanks, G

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    any guarantees or warranty?

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    • #3
      I also have peripheral neuropathy that is getting worse. Neurologist says it could be from long term alcohol consumption, but I don't think I really drank/drink that much. I have a TENS unit - maybe I'll try that on my feet and legs. I'll be watching this thread for any updates.
      http://pauleschoen.com/pix/PM08_P76_P54.png
      Paul , P S Technology, Inc. and MrTibbs
      USA Maryland 21030

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      • #4
        At my doctor's recommendation, I acquired a (Compass brand) electro stimulation unit prior to hip replacement last fall. This one has two modes: "Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulation" (TENS) and "Neuro Muscular Electrical Stimulation" (NMES). I used it a lot following the hip replacement, but only a couple of times for the more recent knee surgery.

        I have sensed absolutely no benefit whatsoever from using it . I kinda think it's all a bogus treatment. Maybe some theoretical validity, but of little practical use. Currently, at the end of each of my structured physical therapy sessions for the knee replacement I undergo 15 minutes of RICE (Rest, Icing, Compression, and Elevation). Here too, they also use electrical stimulation. Their machine, and its pulses, feel noticeably more robust, but again I can't tell it actually accomplishes any positive benefit.
        Lynn (Huntsville, AL)

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        • #5
          Any thoughts of having some sort of seat in the workshop?

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          • #6
            I used my TENS unit on my feet and ankles last night. I had to apply 25-30 mA to get a strong sensation, and after application for 30 minutes, it seems like it helped. I'll keep on using it for a while to see if there is any pronounced improvement. I have also had electro-stim at a physical therapy facility, mostly on my back, with ice or heat, but only for 15-20 minutes a couple times a week. Felt good, but I doubt it has much long term beneficial effect. IMHO the most important aspect of PT is following their instructions for daily exercises, and although they did not specifically recommend the home TENS usage, I think it may take several 20-30 minute sessions daily to do much good. And daily exercise, especially walking, is important.
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            Paul , P S Technology, Inc. and MrTibbs
            USA Maryland 21030

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            • #7
              TLDR: Don't do it.

              Chiropractors have a place but it most certainly does not extend to the level of regenerating /repairing nerves. I've seen a case where a diagnostician used a TENS type unit to verify that the nerves were functional from point A to B and I understand that is a common medically accepted technique to assess damage. That's not a repair process.

              Dan


              At the end of the project, there is a profound difference between spare parts and extra parts.

              Location: SF East Bay.

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              • #8
                Yeah, don't do it. A Chiropractor is nothing more than a massage therapist. They are NOT a doctor, typically. You might as well go see a witch-doctor.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CCWKen View Post
                  Yeah, don't do it. A Chiropractor is nothing more than a massage therapist. They are NOT a doctor, typically. You might as well go see a witch-doctor.
                  Not quite the same. A lot more medical training goes into being a Chiropractor.

                  I'd be going to see a Neurologist.

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                  • #10
                    There is some evidence that TENS and other forms of therapy (such as acupuncture and massage) can help neuropathy:

                    https://nervepainremedies.com/neuropathy-treatment/

                    https://massagechairsexpert.com/tens-vs-ems/

                    https://modernneuropathy.com/5-best-...-regeneration/

                    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323632

                    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29958963/

                    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6218940/ (mostly for women)

                    I found some of these quite interesting and encouraging.
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                    Paul , P S Technology, Inc. and MrTibbs
                    USA Maryland 21030

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                    • #11
                      I don't know about any of those treatments, but I have considered making myself a custom chair for use in the shop. That would leave me mostly standing, but still in a seat with a bit of a back on it and somewhere to put my feet- somewhat like an ergonomic chair for typists. I have a stool that I use at the mill- mostly because there are many slow and repetitive operations where all I'm doing much of the time is cranking a dial. The stool helps, but sooner or later I'll have to have something better. I'm 69 now, still physically healthy, but with ' I guess I can't do that anymore' showing up more and more often. If I drop something, it's now a slower process to reach down to the floor to pick it up, otherwise it hurts my back. I feel lucky that it isn't worse than that. I think the custom chair will work for me for the next several years anyway.
                      I seldom do anything within the scope of logical reason and calculated cost/benefit, etc- I'm following my passion-

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                      • #12
                        I had Lazer Treatment on my shoulder 3 years ago and are happy with the results was done at Chiropractor or Witch Doctor what ever you want to call them.My freind had same treatment on his knee and is extremely happy,his wife put his sock on that foot for 2 years as pain would not allow him to do it.

                        I've had great success with Chiropractors over the years when needed,same for Doctors have had mostly good ones.They both have their place and I'm not one to run to ether one with miner aches and pains.

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