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  • #16
    It was a long time ago, 50 years or so, but wasn't a "handy billy" also a small gas powered water pump?

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    • #17
      Yup, Handy Billy was the P 60 fire pump.
      In the '60's we also had the Solar turbine P 500 which we could lay down a smoke screen with by dripping
      oil into the exhaust.
      Having to hand crank that turbine up to starting speed was a bear!
      Len

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Mike Burch View Post

        A handy billy is a ready-to-use block-and-tackle, rove with one double and one single block (pulley). It is kept ready for use for any odd purpose wherever it might be needed on a ship, particularly in handling cargo.
        This is what I know it to be, never heard of a pump by that name. Think "come-along" for sailors. If you don't know what a come-along is you need to get more.
        The shortest distance between two points is a circle of infinite diameter.

        Bluewater Model Engineering Society at https://sites.google.com/site/bluewatermes/

        Southwestern Ontario. Canada

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        • #19
          Originally posted by loose nut View Post

          This is what I know it to be, never heard of a pump by that name. Think "come-along" for sailors. If you don't know what a come-along is you need to get more.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handy_billy

          Perhaps a regional thing?

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          • #20
            OK, my memory failed at P "50".
            It's been 54 years.
            Still, I must be on "ignore" here.
            Eh...FIDO.
            Len

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            • #21
              A photo-spread on the damaged ship:

              https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-..._source=clavis

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              • #22
                Wow! Looks like an almost total loss. And this picture looks almost like a badly burned body

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                Paul , P S Technology, Inc. and MrTibbs
                USA Maryland 21030

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                • #23
                  FWIW....In the 1930's (?) the old-established company Thornycroft made a two cylinder marine engine they named Handy Billy.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by QSIMDO View Post
                    OK, my memory failed at P "50".
                    It's been 54 years.
                    Still, I must be on "ignore" here.
                    Eh...FIDO.
                    Not ignored! Saw your post and wanted to back it up with a Wiki link

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by JoeLee View Post
                      You have to wonder..... How could a fire get so far out of control ? The ship is all steel, for the most part aside from some interior walls and rooms and maybe doors. But then there's miles and miles of jacketed wiring, and all the painted surfaces. if the fire hit fuel tanks or oil tanks I can see it getting out of control like that.

                      JL.....
                      Contrary to what most people think ships are very flammable and scary places to fight a fire.Just imagine pulling hoses through a passage way up or down ladders in the dark, a dark you can not even imagine, caused by all the smoke. and you can't see the fire until your almost standing in it. Regular firemen are practically useless on ships. Anyone that has been through damage control/fire fighting school in any navy will tell you it is scary $#!+. Even practice fire will kill you quickly.
                      The shortest distance between two points is a circle of infinite diameter.

                      Bluewater Model Engineering Society at https://sites.google.com/site/bluewatermes/

                      Southwestern Ontario. Canada

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                      • #26
                        ...and do all that while underway in a bad sea tossing you around......no thanks !

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                        • #27
                          What is flammable on a steel ship? The paint?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by RB211 View Post
                            What is flammable on a steel ship? The paint?
                            Miles of wire, cable and hose.

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                            • #29
                              I had a friend who, IIRC, was on a research vessel which had lots of microwave wave guide tubing, and they were filled with grain alcohol. So they would use the drain taps to spike their drinks.
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                              Paul , P S Technology, Inc. and MrTibbs
                              USA Maryland 21030

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by RB211 View Post
                                What is flammable on a steel ship? The paint?
                                Plastic,cloth, & wood
                                paper
                                fuel & oil
                                ammunition
                                food and packaging

                                also, the ship was undergoing some kind of extended maintenance, with lots of the normal systems (such as fire alarm and suppression) disabled and more than the usual amount of debris & so on scattered around ... iirc the fire started someplace where a lot of waste cardboard packaging was piled up, waiting to be taken off the ship.


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