I do not do much manual machine work these days, 80% CNC for the last 10 years and this has been a very good thing indeed. It reduces the tedium of cranking handles and levers all day.
I can set up and program multiple machines making different parts and run them at the same time if the cycle times are long enough, you are mostly inspecting the parts as they finish, this is much more efficient and far more fun then running manual machines.
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Originally posted by 754 View Post
It was just as well suited to robots then..only no robots..
and people would take jobs to be able to eat... today not so much...
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Originally posted by JoeLee View PostNot criticizing...... in todays world repetition is for robots but it wasn't 60 years ago or so.
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and people would take jobs to be able to eat... today not so much...
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I totally understand both sides of this.
The stuff I do at work tends to get tedious after a while. The stuff I do at home is not. The work I do is all "inside jobs" meaning that we don't take outside jobs from other companies or people. All the welding and machining I do, is on the company's own equipment, to maintain their stuff. Nobody else's. So yeah after a few years you've seen it all and then things start to repeat. I appreciate a steady paycheck and the opportunity to look like a hero, so it doesn't bother me too much.
But at home I'm doing whatever I want, my way. I can be all kinds of creative (or desperate) and stubborn to make something work. I can invent crazy setups or recreate obscure mechanisms. For me that is where the satisfaction is, in making something work. Especially if I can pull it off on a shoestring budget.
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Old logger I know use to say "Mite as well be doing something as doing Nothing" Retirements is what being Dead is for"
learn something each day play some each day eat well and help someone out. It keep you young
I am 66 still working for a Cat Dealer learning each day, and it finance my Machine and Snow Trac hobbies
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If it makes y'all feel better, it's no different flying a 747 or 777. The only advantage I can see is that I only work half a month, so the other half is playing in the shop.
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Bented's comment about the stages of a machinists career is not far off the mark. When I was going to school to learn this stuff, I was really fired up. Soaked up everything like a sponge. Top in my class. I slowly lost that enthusiasm over the years after doing basically the same stuff over and over again. This was on fully manual machines doing mostly heavy equipment and oil field repairs. I found it hard to keep the "do it right" attitude. The bright spots were when I got to do something different. After 18 years, I made a complete career change. Got out of machine work altogether. Went to work in the power generation industry in the control room of a generating plant.
After a few years, I found that I actually missed machine work, specifically, the creative part of it. I just like working with my hands and mind. I put in my home welding and machine shop and have been thoroughly enjoying it again. Now I only have to do what I choose to do and that makes all the difference.
FWIW - One of my machines is a 2 axis CNC mill. I'm still learning the in's and out's of the thing, but find myself gravitating to it every chance I get. The learning is still fun.
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Originally posted by redlee View Post
Not sure how to take that , compliment or criticism.
I quit more than 1 job because of repetition induced boredom, repetion is for robots.
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Originally posted by Tundra Twin Track View PostI've always enjoyed mating different drives pulleys,sprockets,hydro motors etc. for equipment around the farm&shop that were never designed to be together.I never use drawing and always like making something unique,being sole operator of most everything I design or build I don't have anyone looking over my shoulder.Most times it works out but not always
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Originally posted by JoeLee View Postif everyone had that attitude we would have never been able to put a man on the moon.
I like tough challenges.... like trying to figure out how to make my snap rings.
JL......
I quit more than 1 job because of repetition induced boredom, repetion is for robots.
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I've always enjoyed mating different drives pulleys,sprockets,hydro motors etc. for equipment around the farm&shop that were never designed to be together.I never use drawing and always like making something unique,being sole operator of most everything I design or build I don't have anyone looking over my shoulder.Most times it works out but not always
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Originally posted by Bented View Post
You think it's funny, tomorrow morning I have to operate a manual lathe for 3 or more hours. this is extremely TEDIOUS, crank handle in, engage feed, disengage feed, crank handle out, engage rapid traverse to beginning of cut.......
Last paying side job I had was to modify 60 heatsinks. At least I made a fixture for them, but it was about 3 hours of slow manual feed on an old horizontal mill that has no power feed. Not too fast for good finish, not too slow. Just nice even cranking of the feed for 3 hours or so.
I totally understand "tedious" in machine work. When you do not have a power feed, tedious is a way of life. I really need to put a power feed on it. It is getting ridiculous.
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Originally posted by redlee View PostI always enjoyed making things that were challenging, as soon as it becomes tedious or repetitive Im out.
Bented summed it up well.
I like tough challenges.... like trying to figure out how to make my snap rings.
JL......
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