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  • old mart
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    I'm still waiting, the area I live in, North Somerset has been declared a "tier3" which has a larger than average number of CO19 cases. So the lockdown relaxation starting on the 2nd of December does not apply to us. Unfortunately, this means that the Helicopter Museum will be staying shut, and I won't be able to play with the machinery for a while yet.

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  • J Tiers
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    Originally posted by Circlip View Post
    In the dim and distant past, when Hospitals were "Safe" (Going back sixty years in GB) pre MRSI, Covid Leprosy etc., ALL handles and finger plates were made from Bronze which is superb at killing most hand transmitted infections. Those that got the powers that be to change to Stainless Steel and Aluminininum left us quite a legacy. .........

    Regards Ian.
    This has not gone unnoticed. There is a move to return to copper-based door hardware, etc, for just that reason. Silver is pretty good also, but a tad more expensive.

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  • old mart
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    It does help if the populace heed the advise given by medical doctors. Being intelligent enough to differentiate between bullsh-t and facts helps too, but to the low IQ types, the bullsh-t usually sounds more plausible.

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  • Circlip
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    In the dim and distant past, when Hospitals were "Safe" (Going back sixty years in GB) pre MRSI, Covid Leprosy etc., ALL handles and finger plates were made from Bronze which is superb at killing most hand transmitted infections. Those that got the powers that be to change to Stainless Steel and Aluminininum left us quite a legacy. Fillet Steak lunch induced purchases must have been (and still are) rife.

    Regards Ian.

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  • darryl
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    Life is for living, and has risks- for sure. I prefer to take an intelligent and informed approach to things, rather than be manipulated by mandates. I don't speak for everyone. Personally, I feel I'm as much at risk at home, but I can certainly choose to limit my exposure to others, and limit their exposure to me. I wish everyone well through this whole thing.

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  • lakeside53
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    So... don't eat or drink out. Lock yourself in a closet and wait it all out. There is no100% unless you totally isolate, but life is for living and has risks.

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  • darryl
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    Just an interesting observation as far as hygiene- I see so many servers carrying a plate to your table, then wiping their hands on their ass- or they use the bacterial ingredient and then wipe their hands on their ass. or use the cloth that they've used on every table, then wipe their hands on their ass. In the grocery store they adjust their mask, then touch everything you're buying, then wipe their hands on their ass. For some of them, I'd volunteer to do the ass-caress thing for them- but others there's no way-

    Today I watched someone put their bare hand around the top of my take-out coffee, then put it in a tray to hand to me. I watched as my room mate licked his fingers, then open the fridge door. Yesterday I watched someone else go back to the ice cream box for a second helping, and used his own spoon.

    My room mate is a greeter at a local beer store. He stocks as well, so he isn't always at the door. People come and go all day, making the door handle a breeding ground for who knows what. All my door handles get touched when he gets home. Not very safe for me-

    I get mail all the time- who knows how much this has been touched- but one thing I do know is that someone has touched their ass, then handled my mail. They've blown their noses, then touched my mail (and probably wiped their hands on their ass too. I open the mail- someone has touched the paper inside, and may have sneezed on it too- then wiped their hands on their ass before stuffing it in the envelope.

    I just took a bathroom break. Yes, I washed my hands after, then used the door handle, then- wiped my hands on my ass. Now as I sit in this chair, I'm thinking back about where all I've planted this delightful twin-muscled thing today-

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  • dalee100
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    Originally posted by old mart View Post
    I will have to get used to not being able to use the machinery, my 7 x 12 at home gets very little use and does not count. Things look bad throughout Europe, even Germany is tightening things.
    Hi,

    So fire up that little 7x12 and give it some needed love with a simple project or two!

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  • PStechPaul
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    New Zealand seems to be the ultimate model for successful Covid-19 mitigation. Strict quarantining and isolation, along with government financial support, proved very effective, and now life has returned nearly to normal. There were reports of horrific "quarantine camps", but in reality it seems these were actually nice hotel rooms where people were served good meals and provided many other amenities for a couple weeks until they could be tested negative and allowed to return to their homes.

    https://inews.co.uk/news/world/new-z...s-cases-739493

    https://covid19.govt.nz/travel-and-t...nd-quarantine/

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/hea...and-next-steps

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  • awemawson
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    OK yes we are in lock down, and honestly I can't argue against it. Politicians are damned if they do, and damned if they don't and I'd hate to be the one taking the decisions.

    Personally I rarely go outside the farm gates, and spend time pottering in my workshop, so I reckon that I'm pretty fortunate, but it has hit me in the pocket, as our two holiday cottages on the farm have had to be closed, and bookings that we had have been cancelled.

    But as I say I consider my self fortunate - imagine being in an inner city tower block with young children !

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  • Mark Rand
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    Ok, we're now actually in the lockdown, but I'd think that if the museum isn't open to the public, you don't have to travel too far to get there and there are only a few of you there, with the ability to distance yourselves, then there should be no problem in counting it as 'work' and going in.

    That'd be my argument. For myself, I'm stuck redecorating the bedroom and not allowed by herself to leave the house until I've done it.

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  • J Tiers
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    Most of the actions have been proven to work. Most of them also have large numbers of people who refuse to abide by them. And in most cases, the actions that end up being agreed to and actually done, manage to leave something essential undone. Sealing all the deck hatches, but leaving a seacock open.

    If EVERYONE has to stay on lockdown, no matter what, then most get tired of lockdown. It is stupid. Lock down areas with a problem, and let the other areas go with a mask mandate. If there is a problem that starts up in an area, put the restrictions there.

    What did most do? Put in restrictions everywhere, problem or not. So by the time the problems got to some areas, they were already totally unwilling to put up with any more restrictions.

    Here in Missouri, it took a long time for Covid to get to the small towns and rural areas. They thought they were immune, and were not going to wear any "dang masks", or take any other precautions. Well, they found out a thing or two, and now the hospitals in the city are jammed up with people from out in those areas..

    The governor here does not believe there is such a thing as Covid, despite having actually had it. (Unfortunately, he had a very mild case) So no restrictions, no mask mandate, and no getting tired of them in rural areas, .... and lots of problems now.

    So much stupidity.... the grocery stores here.... they vigorously scrub the conveyor belt at the checkout stations, but they NEVER clean the things that customers actually touch, like the keypad of the payment device, or the place where customers set their wallet when paying.....

    All are the same.... mix gasoline and water, and try to put out the fire with that mixture. Go figure. It's like nobody wants to actually get any real progress against this disease, they all just want to "look like" they give a damn.. And so they take actions which are very visible, but often destructive, and fail to do what would work. (And some are still saying there is no such thing as Covid, they do not help at all).
    Last edited by J Tiers; 11-03-2020, 10:38 AM.

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  • markx
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    Originally posted by Circlip View Post

    No matter how much time is allocated, there are always those who will please themselves to the interpretation of exemptions. Lockdown will never eradicate the problem cos it isn't an absolute lockdown, business and travel will still carry on.

    Regards Ian.
    I second to that. Lockdowns and restrictions, unless they are complete to the full extent shall not eradicate or alleviate the problem, but rather cause certain sectors of the economy to suffer greatly and go out of business as a result. Some rascals always find ways to express their rebellious nature against any advice, be it good or bad. One of my friends noted that: " The COVID countermeasures tend to be just like forming rows of pissers and non pissers in the same pool" . Pretty much on point actually.

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  • Circlip
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    What annoys me most is the government only giving a few days notice, a fortnight would have been more sensible.
    No matter how much time is allocated, there are always those who will please themselves to the interpretation of exemptions. Lockdown will never eradicate the problem cos it isn't an absolute lockdown, business and travel will still carry on.

    Regards Ian.

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  • old mart
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    Guy fawkes night, not day, NSF, I recon thet Tuesday and Wednesday evenings will be noisey. The official announcement was made by the PM on Saturday night, thats only 4 days notice.

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