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  • 6" Mill Table Vise

    Going to purchase a 6" general purpose vise for my mill.
    The one I have is great but it is HEAVY. I just want one for
    general purpose, if there is such a thing. I'm a hobby guy
    so no production work. I see Accu Vises in the $150 range.
    I know you get what you pay.
    Thanks
    olf20 / Bob

  • #2
    Hi,

    Heavy is good. If you want a lighter vise, maybe get a 4"?

    Teco is a decent name and a bit cheaper than Kurt. Otherwise, maybe look at Shars for a vice? They sell a few different brands. I'm all for saving money, but I think in today's market, you are going to need to spend more than $150 to get something usable.
    If you think you understand what is going on, you haven't been paying attention.

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    • #3
      I have to ask what you have on the machine now that is so heavy it bears buying a lighter vise.

      lg
      no neat sig line
      near Salem OR

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      • #4
        I picked this one up not too long ago pretty cheap secondhand from eBay. I quite like it so far. It's 6" × 6" capacity and in addition to the normal orientation it can be used on either side or even up in the air standing on the fixed jaw.

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        • #5
          I found that a 6" milling vise is a bit large for my mill. When I analyzed the table movements and locations where I could bolt a 6" one on the table, I saw that some of the envelop just was not reached by the spindle with the available X-Y movements; mostly the Y movement. So I bought a 5" instead and I can reach from a bit behind the rear jaw for edge finding all the way to the full opening of the movable jaw. And it is quite a bit lighter then a 6" would have been.

          On that weight thing, most milling vises are roughly the same dimensions for a given size. So one 6" will weigh about the same as another 6", even if one costs $150 and the other $1000 or more.

          I actually purchased two identical, 5" milling vises. That way I can mount them side by side to hold wider work. Alignment can be easy just by grabbing a piece of straight stock with the pair of them and aligning on it's rear face. Then tighten them both down. This gives me a lot larger work envelope than even a single 8" vise would have. Some machinists even buy three identical ones and mount them side by side on the table. I actually did that at work a few times to mill some 19" wide panels.

          If you want, you can see the discussion that we had on my milling vise purchase here:

          https://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/fo...ling-vise-size
          Paul A.
          SE Texas

          And if you look REAL close at an analog signal,
          You will find that it has discrete steps.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by larry_g View Post
            I have to ask what you have on the machine now that is so heavy it bears buying a lighter vise.

            lg
            no neat sig line
            I'm not sure of the brand of my vise but this thing is heavy!! At 73, with a bad hip and back I'm just looking for
            something that is lighter, which would make me a little more apt to do a job rather than not because of dragging
            the big one out.

            Thanks for all the replies!
            olf20 / Bob

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            • #7
              Originally posted by olf20 View Post

              I'm not sure of the brand of my vise but this thing is heavy!! At 73, with a bad hip and back I'm just looking for
              something that is lighter, which would make me a little more apt to do a job rather than not because of dragging
              the big one out.

              Thanks for all the replies!
              olf20 / Bob
              ? <dragging the big one out.>? Why isn't the vise on the mill?? Two "shops" I've worked in one had 4 Bridgeports and the other a Bridgeport and a small import , the vises are always (well 90+ percent of the time) on the table.. Only ever get removed for some special purpose.. And I'm 88 so don't like the idea of lifting a Kurt either. :-)
              ...lew...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by olf20 View Post

                I'm not sure of the brand of my vise but this thing is heavy!! At 73, with a bad hip and back I'm just looking for
                something that is lighter, which would make me a little more apt to do a job rather than not because of dragging
                the big one out.

                Thanks for all the replies!
                olf20 / Bob
                Is the vise mounted a dead center of the table and in the way when you need to fixture a part right to the table or use a dividing head?
                Keep your existing vise mounted about a third of the way from theend of the table. Frees up space and evens the wear out on the table screw.

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                • #9
                  Is there such a thing as a lightweight 6" vise? The biggest I have is 5" and its as much as the mills will comfortably hold and as heavy as I would want to lift.
                  Paul's suggestion of having a pair of smaller ones makes sense to me, I use a couple of 100mm Bisons which will pair up perfectly.
                  Last edited by old mart; 11-24-2020, 03:39 PM.

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                  • #10
                    I will slide my vise out of the way sometimes, leaving it on the end of the table. But, I've got a 48" table, so there's enough room for the rotary table beside it.
                    I cut it off twice; it's still too short
                    Oregon, USA

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Paul Alciatore View Post

                      On that weight thing, most milling vises are roughly the same dimensions for a given size. So one 6" will weigh about the same as another 6", even if one costs $150 and the other $1000 or more.

                      https://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/fo...ling-vise-size
                      Hi,

                      Most of the Chinese 6" mill vises are going to be about half the weight, or even a bit less, than a standard 6" Kurt. A 6" Kurt is pushing 70lbs to about 40 for the less costly imports. So it's not too surprising Olf20 is wanting something a bit lighter. Still, I wold recommend a 4" if the work size range will fit. I picked up a 4" import that weights as much as most 6" imports. I think I got it off of eBay - not that I can recommend buying there. But, mine has turned out to be a decent vise.

                      If you think you understand what is going on, you haven't been paying attention.

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                      • #12
                        I use the mill for cnc wood working also. Its Christmas time and need to make some gifts. I do have a 54" table I believe. Can't remember exactly but it's long. I usually use about 2/3 of it while doing the wood / router stuff. I'll keep my eyes peeled to see if I can pickup a good used one.
                        Thanks for the ideas / help / info!
                        olf20 / Bob

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