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    This looks like a quality lathe. I see most lathes dont have the v configuration of the southbend. I would think making three v ways would be much more costly. What is the advantage of three v ways as opposed to the more common two v way beds.?

  • #2
    Was there supposed to be a picture or a link?

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    • #3
      It's a stealth lathe.
      http://pauleschoen.com/pix/PM08_P76_P54.png
      Paul , P S Technology, Inc. and MrTibbs
      USA Maryland 21030

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      • #4
        Sorry guys .Its the southbend heavy ten that Grizzly sells.It looks like a direct copy of the emco super 11. Except for the three v way bed. I wonder if parts are interchangeable.
        <h1>SB1007 Heavy 10 Gearhead Lathe</h1> <h2>No metal lathe has been as popular or as iconic as a Heavy 10.</h2> <p>The Heavy 10 10" X 30" is a modern variation of the classic South Bend lathe and is known worldwide for its reliability and exceptional accuracy. <p>Thick castings, heavy weight, and quality construction throughout provide the necessary brawn for demanding production and manufacturing tasks, yet light enough to be quick and responsive to the operator. <p>Spindle speeds are controlled by convenient headstock levers, which allow the operator to quickly set the spindle speed within the available range of 55–2200 RPM. <p>A heavy-duty 3 HP Delta variable-frequency driver inverter ensures smooth, consistent torque at every speed from the 2 HP two-speed 3-phase motor without requiring a 3-phase power. <p>The gearbox features quick-change gear knobs and the feed rod includes a slip clutch that disables automatic carriage feed when it contacts the feed stop or in the event of a crash. <p>To further ensure a high degree of accuracy, this lathe is equipped with German spindle bearings. The spindle is a D1-4 camlock with an MT#5 taper and 1.358" bore. The tailstock has an MT#3 taper and 3-1/8" of quill travel. <p>The SB1007 is covered by a South Bend 2-year warranty covering parts and factory defects. Tooling and other lathe-related consumables are not covered by this warranty. <p>The manual was written by our U.S. based Technical Documentation Department and is packed with useful information. <p>The South Bend Customer Service and Technical Support Teams are U.S. based. Parts may be available online and shipped from the South Bend parts warehouse in Springfield, MO. <p>The optional <a href=" https://www.grizzly.com/products/south-bend-heavy-10-lathe-stand/sb1035" target="_blank">SB1035</a> stand is available.</p> <p style="color:red;">Made in an ISO 9001 factory</p> <p style="color:red;">CSA certified</p> <h4>SPECIFICATIONS:</h4><ul> <li>Motor: 2 HP, 240V, 3-phase, 5.5A (with single-phase inverter) <li>Swing over bed: 10-3/4"</li> <li>Swing over cross slide: 6-5/8" <li>Distance between centers: 30" <li>Maximum weight between centers: 80 lbs. <li>Width of bed: 7" <li>Cross slide travel: 4-5/8" <li>Compound slide travel: 4" <li>Spindle bore: 1.358" <li>Spindle nose: D1-4 camlock <li>Spindle taper: MT#5 <li>Spindle speeds: (8), 55-2200 RPM <li>Tailstock taper: MT#3 <li>Tailstock quill travel: 3-1/8" <li>Inch threads: (37) 4.5 to 128 TPI <li>Metric threads: (15) 0.25 to 2mm <li>Longitudinal feeds: (15) 0.0018 to 0.0128 IPR <li>Cross feeds: (15) 0.0009 to 0.0064 IPR <li>Maximum tool bit size: 1/2" <li>Overall dimensions: 61" W x 28-1/2" D x 22" H <li>Approximate shipping weight: 645 lbs.</ul> <h4>FEATURES:</h4><ul> <li>Quick-change gearbox cuts inch and metric pitches <li>Outboard spindle spider for gunsmithing <li>Carriage and cross-slide power feed <li>Adjustable carriage stop <li>Thread dial indicator <li>6-1/2" 3-Jaw scroll chuck w/ D1-4 plate

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        • #5
          I'd bet there is virtually nothing interchangeable on it, from the look of it. I am surprised they did the three v-ways, but it is such an SB trademark that they probably felt they needed to just for credibility.

          Yes, it is a pain to deal with that sort of multiple simultaneous alignment as far as scraping and fitting. Do-able, though, I have done it with other machines. Never scraped an SB, have done refurb short of that on a couple.
          CNC machines only go through the motions.

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          • #6
            what kind of bearings does that have?

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            • #7
              I would like one, but would not have the money to spare. I assume it is made in China. I can only see two vees on the bed.
              Last edited by old mart; 12-26-2020, 09:25 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by plunger View Post
                This looks like a quality lathe. I see most lathes dont have the v configuration of the southbend. I would think making three v ways would be much more costly. What is the advantage of three v ways as opposed to the more common two v way beds.?
                Three v-ways does cost more, but v-ways can wear more than flat ways and still function adequately. Imagine how the lathe's saddle (or tailstock) will move down/sideways on flat ways with .015" wear versus v-ways with the same amount of wear.
                Location: Northern WI

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by old mart View Post
                  ............... I can only see two vees on the bed.
                  Put on your glasses and take another look with the zoom.
                  CNC machines only go through the motions.

                  Ideas expressed may be mine, or from anyone else in the universe.
                  Not responsible for clerical errors. Or those made by lay people either.
                  Number formats and units may be chosen at random depending on what day it is.
                  I reserve the right to use a number system with any integer base without prior notice.
                  Generalizations are understood to be "often" true, but not true in every case.

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                  • #10
                    Looks like the carriage rides on two Vees while the tailstock rides on a different Vee and a flat.

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                    • #11
                      Looks better than most other machines that size. To me it seems way overpriced. I think you can get a lot more machine for that kind of money. I have, anyway.
                      Kansas City area

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Toolguy View Post
                        Looks better than most other machines that size. To me it seems way overpriced. I think you can get a lot more machine for that kind of money. I have, anyway.
                        $6,500 on sale for the lathe. Another $1,400 if you want the stand. It also looks like the lathe only comes with a 3 jaw chuck(that doesn’t have top jaws). Any other accessories you have to purchase separately.

                        So say another $1,000-$1,500 if you want the basics like a 4 jaw, faceplate, steady and follow rest. More if you want a collet setup and a better 3 jaw.

                        So you are looking at $9,000-$10,000 for a pretty basic tooled lathe on a stand. I’m not sure what market they are aiming this lathe at?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by J Tiers View Post

                          Put on your glasses and take another look with the zoom.
                          I was looking at the two pictures which show closeups of the tailstock. The picture which shows all three is the one with the stand, which is the only bit made in the USA.
                          Last edited by old mart; 12-26-2020, 12:34 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by old mart View Post
                            I would like one, but would not have the money to spare. I assume it is made in China. I can only see two vees on the bed.
                            Actually, Grizzly is proud of having them made in Taiwan with Japanese NTN bearings and US electrics. This is mentioned in both the spec sheet PDF and the manual PDF. Supposedly they are made to a higher standard than Grizzly's usual run of machines. I would love to have one, but I'm just not that wealthy. I am surprised that they do not include a 4-jaw with their flagship machine given its target market (well-heeled hobbyists and gunsmiths)
                            Last edited by nickel-city-fab; 12-26-2020, 01:27 PM.
                            25 miles north of Buffalo NY, USA

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                            • #15
                              Ouch wow machinery has gone up!!!

                              got my 8X36 mill for 2,650 and it doubles as my lathe and looks like it will continue doing double duty indefinitely....

                              going by weight My mill also outweighs that lathe by about 900lbs...

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