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  • #16
    Doozer, you're just trying to be troublesome!

    "Bar" is the noun; "guide" is the adjective (describing the type of bar). The adjective usually precedes the noun it is modifying.

    Now if we were talking about an employee in a tavern or bar whose job it is to guide the patrons around the place, then we would call him or her a "bar guide."
    Last edited by lynnl; 03-08-2021, 11:01 AM.
    Lynn (Huntsville, AL)

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    • #17
      Originally posted by lynnl View Post
      Doozer, you're just trying to be troublesome!

      "Bar" is the noun; "guide" is the adjective (describing the type of bar). The adjective usually precedes the noun it is modifying.

      Now if we were talking about an employee in a tavern or bar whose job it is to guide the patrons around the place, then we would call him or her a "bar guide."
      You don't say tire car.
      You say car tire.

      You don't say ladder pool.
      You say pool ladder.

      Guide is a thing in the usage here. NOT an adjective.
      If someone said Guiding Bar, then guiding would be an adjective.

      Guide bar is saying the guide is part of the bar. Which it is.
      It does not describe the bar, it is part of the bar.
      The main function of the bar is to hold the chain.
      The secondary feature is to guide the chain.
      The guide part of the bar does this.
      It is a feature, a noun, not an adjective.
      It does not modify the noun bar.
      Guide is something distinctive that happens to be an associated part of the noun bar.

      Am I trying to be troublesome ?
      Maybe you have faulty diction.
      Maybe it comes naturally for you?

      --Doozer
      DZER

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Doozer View Post

        You don't say tire car.
        You say car tire.

        You don't say ladder pool.
        You say pool ladder.

        .....

        --Doozer
        That's right! In your first example tire is the noun in question, and car is the modifier. It clarifies what tire is under consideration here? A truck tire? ...no A wheelbarrow tire? ...no "Oh, a car tire!" Yes, that kind of tire.

        Likewise with the ladder. We're distinguishing that ladder (the noun in question) from, say an extension ladder, or a step ladder, or a wooden ladder, or fiberglass, etc..

        But you just go right ahead and use the terms you wish.

        But don't come crying to us when people give you funny looks...
        Lynn (Huntsville, AL)

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        • #19
          People already give me funny looks.

          -D
          DZER

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          • #20
            Last time I saw bar guides in Bangkok

            Bar grinding machine might have bar guide. Chainsaw would have guide bar.

            But the real question is do you sharpen the chain in-situ?

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            • #21
              The terminology issue is beginning to get as complex as the confusion between drill and drill bit, or light bulb and electric lamp.

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              • #22
                Some bored people here!

                Bars are cheap these days, especially the spot welded sandwich type used on smaller saws. If the groove is worn just toss it and get another. With occasional use saws it will last 20 years or longer. My little saw is a 25 year old 16 inch Stihl with the cheapo type bar which has cut a lot of wood and the bar is still chugging along nicely.

                Measure the thickness of the drive links. If they are tapered more than about .015 toward the drive link tip it's worn out.

                Hey Matt, is that the carbide chain?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by I make chips View Post
                  Some bored people here!

                  ...... (snipped) .....

                  Hey Matt, is that the carbide chain?
                  Also, what should we call it? ...a "blade chain?" or "chain blade?" Let's ask Doozer.
                  Doozer, help us out here.
                  Lynn (Huntsville, AL)

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                  • #24
                    Looks like a dickfor.

                    -D
                    DZER

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Doozer View Post
                      Looks like a dickfor.

                      -D
                      Did the saw have a Henway?
                      25 miles north of Buffalo NY, USA

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                      • #26
                        No it crossed the road.
                        mark costello-Low speed steel

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