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Originally posted by outlawspeeder View PostOr they did not want to pay the electrician to move the outlet the clock is plugged into?Location: The Black Forest in Germany
How to become a millionaire: Start out with 10 million and take up machining as a hobby!
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From your avatar and user name, I suspect you may be a plumber. Or, at least, you like that profession.
That's copper tube - probably SOFT copper tube and the stuff comes in coils that you usually need to straighten out in use. I once bought a 50 foot coil that I used for cooling air from a compressor. I kept the coil shape, just stretching it to about ten feet tall. But bending it was dead easy. Straightening it was actually more difficult.
Originally posted by plunger View PostKudos to the plumber. Bending pipe is a lost art amongst plumbers of today. Now we use flexible braided pipe or composite or pex pipe.Paul A.
Golden Triangle, SE Texas
And if you look REAL close at an analog signal,
You will find that it has discrete steps.
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Originally posted by Paul Alciatore View PostFrom your avatar and user name, I suspect you may be a plumber. Or, at least, you like that profession.
That's copper tube - probably SOFT copper tube and the stuff comes in coils that you usually need to straighten out in use. I once bought a 50 foot coil that I used for cooling air from a compressor. I kept the coil shape, just stretching it to about ten feet tall. But bending it was dead easy. Straightening it was actually more difficult.Southwest Utah
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Originally posted by chipmaker4130 View Post
Nope, Paul. Standard rigid copper tube (in the US, at least) is NOT soft. It is not easy to bend like that. In fact, if you silver braze a joint instead of soft-solder, you have to de-rate the pressure limit of the tube by a huge amount due to annealing the copper.Cayuga, Ontario, Canada
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Originally posted by Tom S View Post
You can purchase both soft (annealed) copper and hard copper. Soft comes in coils, hard comes in lengths. Soft may not be on the shelf of you local home store, it's used more for gas, propane, and AC applications and would be readily available via wholesaler.
Paul the stuff you used is class 3 and is bought in coils. Plumbers have never seen the stuff. Its used by refrigerant companies and is brazed using copper to copper rods rather than soft solder that plumbers use.
I was taught to bend pipe but the lighties of today are clueless. They don't even own a bending tool. Its sad in a way because the skill is gone.
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Iron pipe is another lost art in the plumbing world.... So is soldered copper.
The guys who have done work here recently ONLY use crimped copper, with the o-ring in the bulge. I don't like it, but that's what they do, and ALL they do.CNC machines only go through the motions.
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Well, excuse me but I have purchased soft copper tube in coils as well as hard copper in straight lengths. And yes, the hard copper would be hard to bend: I never tried that. But the soft copper did bend somewhat easily, just using my hands.
I do not know about any plumbing codes or de-rating, but I have seen soft (as well as hard) copper tube/pipe used in standard home plumbing. Just two examples of this are the tubes used to connect faucets under a sink and copper tube used to bring water to a refrigerator with an ice maker. Both of these are small diameter and are probably no longer used due to the cost of copper and availability of plastic lines, but both were used in the past. And the soft copper probably had fewer problems with leaks and out-and-out bursting than some of the plastics that replaced them.
And yes, I am talking about in the US.
And thanks Tom S and plunger for the back up.
Originally posted by chipmaker4130 View Post
Nope, Paul. Standard rigid copper tube (in the US, at least) is NOT soft. It is not easy to bend like that. In fact, if you silver braze a joint instead of soft-solder, you have to de-rate the pressure limit of the tube by a huge amount due to annealing the copper.Last edited by Paul Alciatore; 12-01-2021, 08:18 PM.Paul A.
Golden Triangle, SE Texas
And if you look REAL close at an analog signal,
You will find that it has discrete steps.
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