OT- To All Who Post on HSM - Assistance to our Continued Forum Use IMHO

[George Bulliss]

This entire forum isn’t hosted by George, it’s 100% on vBulletin. It’s why we have it so easy uploading pictures. I don’t know what their agreement is or if they even charge extra beyond a certain limit? Storage is cheap.

Correct, and yes, they do charge more depending on how much storage you are using. IT set it all up and I don't know the specifics about our plan, but do know that shortly after we did the change we had to move up a tier or two with plans due to heavy usage.

[A.K. Boomer]

GB would you prefer we don't keep posting repeats of the same pics or vids? (within reason as sometimes it is handy)

[Doozer]

Jerry Tiers recently posted a comment and part of it is very important and needs everyone's attention IMHO and I wish to expand a bit on the subject of posting pictures .
We use this fine forum freely , based on the gracious support of Village Press. They pay for Server Space while we load up the system with our postings
After a period of time , they may want to limit the posts (?) OR delete the history..... a valuable resource for us all

So how about refraining from re-posting pictures when responding to a post !
We all know what the picture is earlier in the thread and you can delete the picture reference when you use the ' Quote" button.
Doing that reduces valuable needed PC memory space so we can contribute to everyone's knowledge and support for a longer time before the Servers fill up.

Just a simple delete move will help us all
I hope George it is OK to post this ?
And our Thanks for the space !

Rich

Why are you so personally interested in this topic of server space ? ? ? ?
Inquiring minds want to know.

-Doozer

[A.K. Boomer]

Why are you so personally interested in this topic of server space ? ? ? ?
Inquiring minds want to know.

-Doozer

Why are you so interested in why he's interested?

[Doc Nickel]

Disagree with that. Search man search.

-Yep. I search something machine related with Google, the first two pages of results are from Practical Machinist. I try and search here, and even with known keywords and a known poster name, I get 34 pages of results, and the thread in question doesn't even appear in the first ten of them.

Are you ****tin' me? You go on and on complaining about members not posting projects and then admit that you don't either. And try to justify it? Hypocrisy supreme

-Sorry to burst your bubble but no, that's not hypocrisy, that's literally how this sort of thing works. People post stuff on the internet to show it off, to show their friends, to have people "ooh" and "ahh" over it. It's an ego thing, we all do it.

The issue at hand is, quite literally, like begets like. You come in here, and everyone's posting pictures of their creations? You want to post a picture of yours, too. You come in here and everybody's just chatting about a broken cordless drill chuck and some old hats? Where's the incentive to join in?

As I said, I'm an enthusiast, machining and making one-off custom parts is literally my day job, and has been for over two decades now. I have subscriptions to all three magazines. But even I don't bother checking the board here on much past a once-weekly basis because there's so rarely anything new to see.

Worse, what little does get posted, gets entombed into unsearchable sub-threads that only a fraction of the regular readers even bother with.

Doc.

[Doozer]

To see if he is one of those people who is tries to impose his will
in places where he has no authority to do so. This type of person
has a defective personality, and is always subversive in their tactics
to try and control the world. They are sick individuals, and try to
rise to power through posing as a savior of the people in an attempt
to get acceptance of their cause, which is always an attack of the
same people the is trying to subvert.
Does it bother YOU that I ask this question ?

--Doozer

[A.K. Boomer]

You come in here and everybody's just chatting about a broken cordless drill chuck and some old hats? Where's the incentive to join in?


Doc.

Don't know if you were going for humor or not but this one made me laugh --- esp. the old hats quip... Yeah JR was really pushing the limits with that one lol

[A.K. Boomer]

To see if he is one of those people who is tries to impose his will
in places where he has no authority to do so. This type of person
has a defective personality, and is always subversive in their tactics
to try and control the world. They are sick individuals, and try to
rise to power through posing as a savior of the people in an attempt
to get acceptance of their cause, which is always an attack of the
same people the is trying to subvert.
Does it bother YOU that I ask this question ?

--Doozer

Nothing wrong with his OP, if not for just keeping repeats from getting on others nerves but bottom line is my question to GB on post #32, and what he says goes...

so bringing it up is like Willy stated a common courtesy, again scroll down to "my week this week" and then go to the last page and tell me that's something you want to see here all the time,,, everyone has their limits....

[Baz]

Even 800 wide is more than most pictures need, probably B&W saves too, and at least crop the picture to the relevant part, which means excluding your cat/dog too.

[Bob Engelhardt]

-Sorry to burst your bubble but no, that's not hypocrisy, that's literally how this sort of thing works. ....

Yeah, it is hypocrisy.

You want to see change? Or do you just want to whine? If it's change that you want, why don't you do something about it and post some of your work. Then since "like begets like", others are more likely to also. The more that you post on topic, the more likely others will.

On the other hand, if you just want to whine, then that whining is just what you are whining about (OT blather).

[Doc Nickel]

If it's change that you want, why don't you do something about it and post some of your work.

-You mean like this one I posted last week? Or the video I posted a few days before that? Or the discussion on CNC work I started?

Checking your recent history, speaking of hypocrisy, anything with actual machining content was... posted to the "what did you do today?" thread.

"Kettle!" cried the pot. "How black thou art!".

Doc.

[Doc Nickel]

Here's another one Bob. Gonna put your money where your mouth is?

Doc.

[J Tiers]

Disagree with that. Search man search. Used the forum search or google advance and restrict it to this site. I'm always finding answers via old, decades or more, posts in the various machining forums. Its a wealth of information. Just a new way of coming at vs the old annual indices, union lists, etc

It is difficult to find anything in the long long long long long long long "pile" posts.

"Search"? Don't make me laugh so hard, I choked on the coffee.

In the first place, the search is not very good. The ability to have exclusions etc is not very good, so you get thousands of hits on anything at all common. Search "toolpost". You get hundreds of results where on some totally unrelated thing, a poster mentions that they put "X" in the toolpost for that operation...... or some such

In the second place, while it does find things by post inside a thread, that gets so many hits on passing mentions that they just clutter up the results. A search returning 50 pages of results is not a search at all. You may as well scroll through the posts. Searching by title may miss a lot, but it cuts the number of "passing mentions".

All you really get with the search is a somewhat smaller "pile". You still may have dozens of pages of results to sift through and decide itf you will check each individual result. Most are going to be irrelevant, as mentioned previously.

At least with a title search, which is only possible or meaningful when you do NOT have "catch-all" threads, you can get all the threads where the poster was considerate enough to put the subject in the title. One decent thing about PM is that the titles must describe the subject, or they may get deleted or closed.

Doc has it EXACTLY described. Read and understand what he is saying. It is pretty much right-on.

Yeah, it is hypocrisy.

You want to see change? Or do you just want to whine? If it's change that you want, why don't you do something about it and post some of your work. Then since "like begets like", others are more likely to also. The more that you post on topic, the more likely others will.

On the other hand, if you just want to whine, then that whining is just what you are whining about (OT blather).

Maybe you should read this forum every so often. Doc posts lots of very interesting things. And he starts interesting and directly machining-related threads.

Your comment about hypocrisy is way off target and frankly insulting.

To see if he is one of those people who is tries to impose his will
in places where he has no authority to do so. This type of person
has a defective personality, and is always subversive in their tactics
to try and control the world. They are sick individuals, and try to
rise to power through posing as a savior of the people in an attempt
to get acceptance of their cause, which is always an attack of the
same people the is trying to subvert.
Does it bother YOU that I ask this question ?

--Doozer

This is really way out there, almost to crazed rant territory, frankly. Where did it even COME from? It ain't out in left field, it's all the way down on west 105th street.

The post and thread is relevant, useful and makes sense. Would you like this place to be useful? Or just a chit-chat location?

[Rich Carlstedt]

Why are you so personally interested in this topic of server space ? ? ? ?
Inquiring minds want to know. -Doozer

Because Jerry mentioned it---as I pointed out, but expanded the subject a bit
Because I have been on the net for 25 years and seen some good forums fold -and do not want to loose this one
Because I have a website and know you PAY for volume and storage space ( regardless of comments made by some posters )
Because re posting Pictures is a waste of space , it's called redundancy
Because repetition is boring

Hope this answers your inquisitive mind Doozer !
Rich

To see if he is one of those people who is tries to impose his will
in places where he has no authority to do so. This type of person
has a defective personality, and is always subversive in their tactics
to try and control the world. They are sick individuals, and try to
rise to power through posing as a savior of the people in an attempt
to get acceptance of their cause, which is always an attack of the
same people the is trying to subvert.
Does it bother YOU that I ask this question ? --Doozer

Thats funny Doozer !
You can say that about people you don't know perhaps, but keep in mind this BIG distinction :

I do not hide behind a "Handle" or "emoji" or any other poster ID- I use my real name - unlike some who can spout off and
hide their identity so their actions can never be weighed against them -----I call it Truth in packaging..!
There is no political ploy here , you either understand the issue, or you ignore it

Rich

[A.K. Boomer]

This is really way out there, almost to crazed rant territory, frankly. Where did it even COME from? It ain't out in left field, it's all the way down on west 105th street.

The post and thread is relevant, useful and makes sense. Would you like this place to be useful? Or just a chit-chat location?

You have a very nice way of saying "wack job" lol