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  • Toyota key fob update

    Just an update.

    Toyota has said they are "reviewing" the idea about charging a subscription to be able to use your key fob to start your car. The main reason seems to be that they got a lot of backlash from customers and the public in general complaining about it.

    Who knew that people don't like being screwed with, apparently not them.
    The shortest distance between two points is a circle of infinite diameter.

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    Southwestern Ontario. Canada

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    Well, there's a big surprise!
    Paul A.
    SE Texas

    And if you look REAL close at an analog signal,
    You will find that it has discrete steps.

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    • #3
      Toyota says it was an "accident".

      Lehto's Law: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfDoc6wegss

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      • #4
        The marketplace would have soon solved this anyway.
        When one automaker charges for something like this it is only a matter of time before one of it's competitors offers it without charge making it a sales feature for them.
        Home, down in the valley behind the Red Angus
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Willy View Post
          The marketplace would have soon solved this anyway.
          When one automaker charges for something like this it is only a matter of time before one of it's competitors offers it without charge making it a sales feature for them.
          Maybe, maybe not. I think the car manufacturers are all in cahoots with each other. All it would have took is one manufacturer to get away with this and the others would have all jumped in.



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          • #6
            UPDATE. Toyota marketing geniuses are abandoning the remote entry fee, but now you need to pay "just a dime" to unlock the gas cap each fill đŸ˜‚

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            • #7
              How easily disabled is the lock?
              'It may not always be the best policy to do what is best technically, but those responsible for policy can never form a right judgement without knowledge of what is right technically' - 'Dutch' Kindelberger

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Richard P Wilson View Post
                How easily disabled is the lock?
                Trivial, there is no lock

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by oxford View Post

                  Maybe, maybe not. I think the car manufacturers are all in cahoots with each other. All it would have took is one manufacturer to get away with this and the others would have all jumped in.


                  Cahoots or not, the market still would have solved it. Once all of the car manufacturers had implemented it, it would be a short time (or nearly no time) before a parade of workarounds appeared all over the internet to disable such a "feature" along with the youtube videos on how to do them, or five dollar gizmos on ebay that you plug in someplace to bypass such silliness.

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                  • #10
                    My 2017 Silverado does not even have a gas cap, just a flap.
                    mark costello-Low speed steel

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                    • #11
                      The really scary $#!+ that everyone needs to understand is that any of these car companies that sell "connected" vehicles can shut your car/truck down any time they want to. There should be a way to disconnect from them.
                      The shortest distance between two points is a circle of infinite diameter.

                      Bluewater Model Engineering Society at https://sites.google.com/site/bluewatermes/

                      Southwestern Ontario. Canada

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by loose nut View Post
                        The really scary $#!+ that everyone needs to understand is that any of these car companies that sell "connected" vehicles can shut your car/truck down any time they want to. There should be a way to disconnect from them.
                        Be concerned that criminals will shut your car down, rob you and take it any time they choose.

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                        • #13
                          About ten or fifteen years ago there was a plan by some absolutely brilliant rocket scientist in government to have a shutdown sensor in the tail light of every new vehicle. The cops could aim a laser at it and poof your car quits.
                          This was squelched due to control issues from a dead engine and the miscreants could also get a laser or whatever it was to disable and rob/rape you or make you vote liberal.

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                          • #14
                            I seriously doubt the Fascists that would do this kind of thing would want people to vote liberal.
                            The shortest distance between two points is a circle of infinite diameter.

                            Bluewater Model Engineering Society at https://sites.google.com/site/bluewatermes/

                            Southwestern Ontario. Canada

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