Originally posted by Bented
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Older Hardware vs Newer Hardware .... Quality etc.
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Hashim Khan
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"There's no pleasing these serpents"......Lewis Carroll
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Originally posted by Bented View Post
Old does not always mean "higher" quality merely lower pricing.
Many manufacturers produce simple hardware that outperforms 40 year old hardware, consumers will not pay for this however.
Holo-Krome is still alive and kicking.
https://www.holo-krome.com/product-line.html25 miles north of Buffalo NY, USA
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Originally posted by J Tiers View Post
Um... He's saying the older stuff cost MORE than new junk, but it's OK to get better stuff.
The latest stuff I got locally were some pathetic looking 1/2" SAE flat washers. The edges were ragged enough to cut your fingers on and the center hole looked like it was skewed. The outer edges had some half circle bite marks all around them like they were jumping around and getting caught by the center punch die.
Got some 9/16" - 12 nuts and they were drilled and threaded off center. The threads looked all hacked up and had nasty burrs on each side for starting threads.
I brought all of that stuff back. I had asked where this crap came from..... china ?? india ??? and the guy said they came out of canada. I said that doesn't mean they were made there.
I told him if you keep buying the lowest priced crap you can get and I'm going elsewhere.
JL.............
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Originally posted by Tundra Twin Track View PostI usually buy most of my common Bolts from my John Deere Dealer by the lb. ,I was restocking my inventory and didn’t notice the 5/16” x1-1/4” threads were total garbage.I returned them and the dealer cleaned out the entire Bin and returned them to supplier.
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On the hardened square head set screws........... I drew them back today using my MAP gas torch. They just about hit orange but not quite. I let them soak for a couple minutes. When they cooled I was able to cut the heads off with my hack saw.
JL...................
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Originally posted by nickel-city-fab View Post
... My local Ace recently upgraded their franchise , including the fastener aisle. I am astounded every time I go in there ...
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Originally posted by JoeLee View PostI know the CAT dealer has their own hardware and from what I've seen it's pretty nice looking stuff, made to their specs. I would imagine. I thought JD had the same.
JL....................
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Originally posted by JoeLee View PostI just need one more tool,just one!
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The wing head are decent. The ones to the right are only good for stuff you buy at Target, Walmart, or the dollar store.4357 2773 5150 9120 9135 8645 1007 1190 2133 9120 5942
Keep eye on ball.
Hashim Khan
Everything not impossible is compulsory
"There's no pleasing these serpents"......Lewis Carroll
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Originally posted by JoeLee View PostHere is some other old hardware I've bought from them in the past for various projects.
I have some square head bolts similar to the ones in my first post but these have a flange under the head.
JL.................
Another vote for buying hardware lots at industrial auction.
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Originally posted by reggie_obe View Post
Don't appear to be the typical CCC thumbscrews.
Another vote for buying hardware lots at industrial auction.
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Originally posted by J Tiers View PostThe wing head are decent. The ones to the right are only good for stuff you buy at Target, Walmart, or the dollar store.25 miles north of Buffalo NY, USA
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Originally posted by nickel-city-fab View Post
Turns out that McMaster still has the solid forged wing-heads in two different styles. A previous employer used them for sealing the lids on their in-process hydrogen filters. (To enable the operators to quick-change the filters)
JL.....
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