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[sarge41]

The fools! Don't they know the one set is for left handed people.

Sarge41

[vectorwarbirds]

The fools! Don't they know the one set is for left handed people.

Sarge41

There are no left handed Swedes....

[Bented]

Buy 2 cheap calculators from Staples.
One intended for metric dimensions and one for inch dimensions.

[nickel-city-fab]

That sounds like a normal day on PM. Thank goodness that stuff doesn't happen at all at my day job. We're all too busy to have any conversation at all.

I posted here before that the ER collet sets were the physically the same, both inch and metric
but the know it all's here had to argue with me that they knew best, and their daddy's
daddy's daddy told them they were different too, and they had 20 years experience
with these collets and they were different. Egos the size of battleships and just as
impenetrable. These guys need to go find some other forum to dominate.

-D

[Doozer]

I have both 19mm and 3/4" wrenches. I wonder if they'll exchange those, too.

t

19mm and 3/4" are really close conversions.
as are
16mm and 5/8"
8mm and 5/16"
4mm and 5/32"
see a pattern there?
I use an 11mm wrench for 7/16" wrench quite a lot.
Also use 22mm for a 7/8" wrench often too.
35mm and 1-3/8" wrenches are almost identical.
You just get to remember what is close and
you can substitute when using sockets or combination
wrenches or Allen wrenches.

-Doozer

[vectorwarbirds]

19mm and 3/4" are really close conversions.
as are
16mm and 5/8"
8mm and 5/16"
4mm and 5/32"
see a pattern there?
I use an 11mm wrench for 7/16" wrench quite a lot.
Also use 22mm for a 7/8" wrench often too.
35mm and 1-3/8" wrenches are almost identical.
You just get to remember what is close and
you can substitute when using sockets or combination
wrenches or Allen wrenches.

-Doozer

Dooz will you just conform and buy all the damn sizes of fastener tools so they can continue to come up with even more weird ass types for the sheeple to buy and never use! Conform man conform!

[Baz]

but it is so annoying there is no 9.5mm in my metric set.
By the way do they do different sets for UNC and UNF?

[J Tiers]

Dooz will you just conform and buy all the damn sizes of fastener tools so they can continue to come up with even more weird ass types for the sheeple to buy and never use! Conform man conform!

Heh....... "sheeple"? The word has been overused, and could refer to so MANY groups now....some of "opposite types".

It's just easier to grab the metric set when there are some that cross over and some that do not. Unless you are so obsessive-compulsive that you buy individual ones just so you can avoid duplicates.

That's too much like work, for me. I have known folks who would actually do that, but yeah, they were very strange. Folks who would always save the pennies, but threw away dollars without thinking like there was no tomorrow.

I have sets of both in various places. Nearly all bought used; that's one in the eye for the marketing folks.

The HF set was silly, because A) it was odd sizes, and B) the ones that cross over were the ONLY ones in the set, which is why it was odd sizes..

[Paul Alciatore]

Worse yet, I have frequently encountered set screws like that in very expensive, US MADE equipment. In fact, for some years I thought that was the norm. I know better now, but cheap, improperly heat treated set screws are very common. Or were some years ago, at least.

Ive encountered some hardware like that before.

[Paul Alciatore]

Yes, I made the mistake of buying a file from HF once. Soft as butter - well no softer. I did keep it as it has a nice handle and I can shape it into something useful someday. Who knows, it may even be a decent alloy which I can harden.

But I am glad it was only one file. Never again.

I love HF, but if there's one rule of thumb there: if the product needs to be properly tempered or heat treated, be extremely cautious. Bought an 18" bolt cutter with jaws about as hard as a good hunk of parmesan. But even so, most of the drills I've gotten there have been 'good enough'.

[Paul Alciatore]

I suspect you have more experience with buying collets than I do. I only have four sets, only one ERs. But I do know that all the sets of ERs that I have or have seen described are whole mm sizes. But there are reports of actual ER collets that are actual inch sizes. I have never seen one and would love to, preferably one from a set of inch sizes and not just a single special.

I, therefore do not make any blanket statements about "ALL" ER collets.

My ego is only about the size of a row boat, perhaps a large row boat, perhaps with one of those electric outboard motors. I am allowed in all areas of all marinas as I can not leave a wake.

I posted here before that the ER collet sets were the physically the same, both inch and metric
but the know it all's here had to argue with me that they knew best, and their daddy's
daddy's daddy told them they were different too, and they had 20 years experience
with these collets and they were different. Egos the size of battleships and just as
impenetrable. These guys need to go find some other forum to dominate.

-D

[gellfex]

Yes, I made the mistake of buying a file from HF once. Soft as butter - well no softer. I did keep it as it has a nice handle and I can shape it into something useful someday. Who knows, it may even be a decent alloy which I can harden.

But I am glad it was only one file. Never again.

Classic example. But it's the inconsistent rewards that make the HF casino fun. Some of their diamond abrasive products are just great, or at least great for the money. The diamond bevel wheel in the middle of this $10 set does an amazing job of sharpening oscillating saw blades, used in a hand drill on a jobsite!

[The Metal Butcher]

19mm and 3/4" are really close conversions.
as are
16mm and 5/8"
8mm and 5/16"
4mm and 5/32"
see a pattern there?
I use an 11mm wrench for 7/16" wrench quite a lot.
Also use 22mm for a 7/8" wrench often too.
35mm and 1-3/8" wrenches are almost identical.
You just get to remember what is close and
you can substitute when using sockets or combination
wrenches or Allen wrenches.

-Doozer

Dad has some sockets marked 19 and 3/4.

He's so cheap though that most of his sets are missing the equivalents. "Grab the [XX] equivalent!" he'd tell me. Drove me nuts as a kid.

[Doozer]

The diamond bevel wheel in the middle of this $10 set does an amazing job of sharpening oscillating saw blades, used in a hand drill on a jobsite!

If you are hand sharpening oscillating saw blades on the job site,
that is an incredible waste of time and money. If I hired you, you
would not be hired for long.

-D