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  • #16
    This post is to work around the date stamp problem and will throw the post off the top of the list.
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    • #17
      A brief update.
      Finally got an arbor cleaned up...not perfect.
      A couple of problems.
      The arbor doesn't line up with the bushing for the overarm support. It's out about 1/8". I'm hoping the bushing is an eccentric cam type setup but didn't have the energy to screw with it too much.
      The bushing is held in with a threaded nut.
      Next...the arbor has .005 runnout... front and back. The keys that fit into the spindle have a bit of rust on them yet and I haven't fully checked out the taper..it could have a ding I missed.
      I'm thinking this is a shop made arbor.
      The draw bar hole has been tapped in cockeyed. The drawbar is cocked over by nearly 1" in 20". This also could contribute to the .005 runnout.
      The arbor doesn't seem bent as it did run true at three check points.
      Next...still trying to figure the oiling system
      I did find a big old ugly sump in the very bottom under the box that holds the change gears.
      It is GROSS! It's half full of really really old stinky rotten oil and bugs
      The hole that I though fed the middle sump doesn't.
      It's a hole for a drain. There is a pipe threaded into it from the bottom with a tap on it.
      To drain the top sump you open the tap and drain it into the bottom sump.
      I don't see any evidence of a pump.
      There are no return oil lines or any place to put them or anything.
      This doesn't mean there never was a pump but it sure doesn't look it to me.
      I still can't see how the table feed gears are oiled. I'm thinking they are splash fed from the main gears through a small opening but if they are then all the oil would be flung all over the top of the wooden storage box for the change gears. It doesn't look like this is the case. There is some oil on the wood but not that much.
      The handles, gear change levers etc. are all badly rusted on and I'm still waiting for the Kroil to loosen them. This all has to be done before I can remove the case cover for the table feed gear box.
      I have tto take pics of the mess around the big drive pulley.
      There might be a clutch on this machine.
      I got the cover the other day and it has a linkage to activate the clutch or brake or whatever the rusted mess is.
      There is a brake shoe type band on the drive spindle...I don't know if it's a clutch or a brake. Everything is rusted solid and I can't get it loose yet.
      Sorry for no pics but I just didn't have the ambition tonight.
      Need some help for sure with this brake/ clutch thing so maybe tomorrow.
      Russ
      PS...the spindle runnout could also be because I don't have the spindle adjusted right yet. It just dawned on me that it could be loose enough to be causing a problem.
      Last edited by torker; 06-06-2006, 12:58 AM.
      I have tools I don't even know I own...

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      • #18
        Russ unfortunately I haven't been able to follow the entire Ohio #2 saga but I do know that you've been looking for info on your new baby and like you said it's next to non existant.So I don't know if this is relevent or not but I bumped into a thread about old machines on the "other site" tonight and thought I'd share it with you, it might be the little bread crumb that leads to some useful information.Can hardly wait to see all the milled "billet" aluminum on the Hairy Kanary. Best of luck with your project.It's a good thing we can't all come over and help we'd probably get in each others way.

        linkage:http://www.practicalmachinist.com/cg...1;t=001519;p=0 Bottom of the page.
        Last edited by Willy; 06-06-2006, 03:16 AM.
        Home, down in the valley behind the Red Angus
        Bad Decisions Make Good Stories​

        Location: British Columbia

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        • #19
          Willy...I get the feeling that you aren't very far away from me! Locals are about the only ones who spell the name of my ol' hotrod correctly.
          Hmmm....this could be bad. You wouldn't have ummmm...a big ol' shed that needs a huge old turning lathe project would you? I know of one for about $500, he'll load it and I know a guy who can haul the little 6 or 7000 pound beauty.
          The lathe is just about perfect for a serious project....it's been sitting out in the rain and snow for 5 years. You'd love it....buy Kroil!
          Thanks for the link. Now it seems the Oesterlein Company is older than I thought.
          Their factory building is a historical site now (a dress/clothing mfg was in it later)and was built in the mid 1920's. Perhaps they where in a different place before that.
          Russ
          Last edited by torker; 06-06-2006, 08:21 AM.
          I have tools I don't even know I own...

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          • #20
            Thank you very much for the offer Russ it's very tempting,but I couldn't do it justice right now I'm backlogged for at least a couple of years right now with overdue projects,nevermind the ever growing honeydew list.
            I'm really not that far up the road from you,in Lumby,east of Vernon.I remember seeing the Hairy Kanary on the highway on one of my road trips about 4 or 5 years ago can't remember exactly where.Wished I could have seen it run.Bumped into the video of it shortly after seeing it...http://www.whiteknight.ca/READERS%20RIDES%202002.htm still got it on the shop dvd player, every once in awhile I'll crank up the speakers and let it run,it's a good way to wake up the neighbours at 6:00 am on a Sunday morning!
            Last edited by Willy; 06-06-2006, 11:54 AM.
            Home, down in the valley behind the Red Angus
            Bad Decisions Make Good Stories​

            Location: British Columbia

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            • #21
              Willy...I've been to Lumby actually. Nice little place.
              You may have met me on the road to Nakusp perhaps. I used to race out there for quite a few years.
              Ha...the White Knight site...good video but they spelled the name wrong also...lol!
              Shoot me your email and I'll send you a couple of better ones.
              Ya...too bad about the old lathe. I'd drag it home but I have absolutely run out of room also (9 vehicle "projects" will do that)
              Russ
              I have tools I don't even know I own...

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              • #22
                Ohio Milling Machine

                Earlypearl on eBay has listed a manual for the 1925 version of the Ohio horizontal mill.
                David Brown 7-20-06

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                • #23
                  Hey all you "old iron" gurus...I have a question???? The pic shows the main spindle. Right in front of the big bull gear there is a split ring. It is positioned then tightened down with two socket head bolts. There is a plate on the side cover that is supposed to be removed to adjust the spindle tension with this split ring. There is also a huge nut on the back of the spindle that does the same thing (tension the spindle).
                  Does anyone know how you are supposed to adjust this split ring to the proper tension?
                  Thanks!

                  Russ
                  I have tools I don't even know I own...

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                  • #24
                    Geez! Nobody here ever done this? Just wondering now ....how old is this mill....really! Are all the guys who know how to do this pushing daisies now
                    Russ
                    I have tools I don't even know I own...

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                    • #25
                      OK...then I'll give you an updated pic!
                      New belt is waiting down at the bus station.....need some wire, some gear box lube and it's about ready to fire..NO...I'm not finished painting it yet!

                      Russ
                      I have tools I don't even know I own...

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                      • #26
                        updating an old post

                        Hey Russ,

                        It's looking good. I'm thinking nobody is responding though because they don't realize it is an old post and they get tired of reading before the third page. I remembered the post and checked the date. Try putting your question, the answer to which I know not, in a new post.

                        Stuart
                        Stuart de Haro

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                        • #27
                          Stuart...geez...good idea! Should have thought of that!
                          Russ
                          I have tools I don't even know I own...

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