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  • #16
    I had a look at my identical Starrett scriber, probably 20-odd years old, made in Great Britain (Jedburgh, Scotland). It is just as Jammer Six describes - the collet will turn inside the handle. I don't think it should. The collet can be pushed back into the handle about 3-4mm. The 'chuck' can be almost fully tightened, but then the collet will turn inside the handle before it locks.

    If I pull the collet outwards from the handle, hard, that gives it a firmer fit inside the handle. The chuck can then be tightened up fully and the scriber is locked and no longer turns inside the handle. Hard to believe they intended that. They must have been turning out the same poor design for decades.

    I haven't used it much, if ever. Too nice. Most of my scribing has been on hot rolled steel which ruins sharp points quickly.

    Years ago we bought a box of 4"/100mm "Ramset" brand concrete nails, the type which get shot into place. They have an orange plastic cover on the sharp end, a fairly large head and are hard. No problem to have a few of them, different grinds, different toolboxes, great scribers.

    I have another Starrett scriber which I bought in the late 1970's, a double-ended type with one pointed end bent 90 degrees. I never did figure out how to sharpen the bent end nicely, it turns into a bit of a useless stub after a few years. I guess you are supposed to buy a new one.

    Old mart,

    I'm not sure what you mean. The scriber will only fit into the handle as far as the parallel portion. Although the scriber can be reversed and fitted fully into the handle, when it is taken out, reversed and used as a scriber, it will not go into the handle past the parallel portion. A nice design touch I guess.
    Last edited by Peter S; 05-30-2022, 09:22 AM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by JRouche View Post

      First of all? No Stupid questions Man.
      .......

      in Toronto Ontario - where are you?

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      • #18
        Dead right, unfortunately there are plenty of stupid people who don't ask because they think they know the answers.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by JRouche View Post

          First of all? No Stupid questions Man. Stupid is the one that does not ask,.. JR
          But the thread title? That's not great.... would be locked on 'other' forums .

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          • #20
            People who think there are no stupid questions haven't met my apprentice. Nice kid, but goddamn...

            On a side note, I recently had occasion to have to talk to one of my apes again. That was fun. He's been on a TI (Tenant Improvement) crew for the last three years. He's been with Local 31 for the last four or five years, and he's the guy on the crew who takes over if the foreman is not available for any reason.

            He made my day when he said he has an apprentice who asks the stupidest questions.

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            • #21
              Hey, it is a lot better for them to ask questions instead of just mucking it up and then you need to correct it.

              In my working years I have had people ask me questions that were very basic and simple. I, in my infinite wisdom (ha, ha) may have considered them less than intelligent. But I did answer them. And often I discovered that there were things involved that did not immediately come to my mind. But they were troubled by them.

              I always made it a point not to belittle anyone when they asked questions. So, YES, there are no stupid questions.



              Originally posted by Jammer Six View Post
              People who think there are no stupid questions haven't met my apprentice. Nice kid, but goddamn...

              On a side note, I recently had occasion to have to talk to one of my apes again. That was fun. He's been on a TI (Tenant Improvement) crew for the last three years. He's been with Local 31 for the last four or five years, and he's the guy on the crew who takes over if the foreman is not available for any reason.

              He made my day when he said he has an apprentice who asks the stupidest questions.
              Paul A.
              SE Texas

              And if you look REAL close at an analog signal,
              You will find that it has discrete steps.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Paul Alciatore View Post
                Hey, it is a lot better for them to ask questions instead of just mucking it up and then you need to correct it.
                Agree. Despite the comic (I like that type of humour) at work its 100% "there are no stupid questions". A question is so much easier to address than rework on some 10,000 lb fabrication. The point of the phrase is to drill into people "ask the question". What you are trying to overcome is the ego's (sense of self) need to to protect itself, as questions carry some risk. Amazing that the psychology to protect itself from seem a tad foolish from a question can override the possibility of looking really foolish screwing up a job.
                Last edited by Mcgyver; 05-31-2022, 08:07 AM.
                in Toronto Ontario - where are you?

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                • #23
                  The only stupid question is the one that doesn't get asked.
                  Avid Amateur Home Shop Machinist, Electronics Enthusiast, Chef, Indoorsman. Self-Proclaimed (Dabbler? Dilettante?) Renaissance (old) Man.

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                  • #24
                    I have a stadler clutch pencil with a 2.4 mm tungsten in it, works and retracts one end 30 degree and the other half grind to do tight to a rule, ( a flat half dia)
                    I had a starret bought in USA but no spin, gripped tight, I put a tungsten in it too
                    mark

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