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  • #31
    Originally posted by SteveF View Post
    Personally I'm pretty much done with Hollywood.
    100%. There is the very odd exception, but 99% of movies the last 10 or 20 years are one 5 off the shelve scripts with the same tired and stupid shticks. There's the car flipping over and exploding, the minority side kick, 10,000 bullets fired at the hero who never gets hit and so on. Its not entertaining, its tedious and predictable. Just the aging process? Or is there no creativity and art left in it?

    Some I thought were entertaining and not predictable.....

    Forrest Gump,
    The Last Indian
    Sugerman
    The first Matrix
    Pulp Fiction
    Oceans 11
    Grand Budapest Hotel





    Last edited by Mcgyver; 05-23-2022, 06:14 PM.
    in Toronto Ontario - where are you?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by reggie_obe View Post

      Decisions yes, thinking and learning...no.
      It can only choose actions based on predefined rules and outcomes.
      Doesn't have to think or learn to be autonomous.
      Making decisions without user input .... is autonomous

      Autonomous
      1. 1.
        (of a country or region) having the freedom to govern itself or control its own affairs.
        "the federation included sixteen autonomous republics"
      2. 2.
        (in Kantian moral philosophy) acting in accordance with one's moral duty rather than one's desires.
      Pretty weak description, I know.
      John Titor, when are you.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by reggie_obe View Post

        Decisions yes, thinking and learning...no.
        It can only choose actions based on predefined rules and outcomes.
        Which is essentially what a human pilot does.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Mike Amick View Post

          Doesn't have to think or learn to be autonomous.
          Making decisions without user input .... is autonomous

          Autonomous
          1. 1.
            (of a country or region) having the freedom to govern itself or control its own affairs.
            "the federation included sixteen autonomous republics"
          2. 2.
            (in Kantian moral philosophy) acting in accordance with one's moral duty rather than one's desires.
          Pretty weak description, I know.
          and this one too,

          ​​​​​​
          • denoting or performed by a device capable of operating without direct human control.
            "autonomous underwater vehicles"

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          • #35
            A distraction funded by
            our overlords to distract
            us from their activities.

            -Doozer
            DZER

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Doozer View Post
              A distraction funded by
              our overlords to distract
              us from their activities.

              -Doozer
              Just think about this: Movies, as a rule are "fictional".

              That means, in the crudest sense, that they are lies from start to finish. And, since they are lies, nothing at all in them needs to be true, possible, credible, etc. After all the basis of it is telling a lie. Why worry about smaller lies told in the process of telling the big one?

              That means that "actors" are professional liars. That's how they make their money, making you temporarily believe a lie. The better they do so, the better actor they are judged to be.

              So, being entertained by people telling lies is ingrained in most folks. Small step from there to believing those lies, or other ones............

              And you cannot trust one single thing that an actor of any sort says. They tell lies all day as they work, after all. And they do it well.
              Last edited by J Tiers; 05-24-2022, 02:42 PM.
              CNC machines only go through the motions

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              • #37
                They don't have to believe the story to be distracted by it.
                The story itself is irrelevant. The fact that it exists is relevant.

                -D
                DZER

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by J Tiers View Post

                  Just think about this: Movies, as a rule are "fictional".

                  That means, in the crudest sense, that they are lies from start to finish. And, since they are lies, nothing at all in them needs to be true, possible, credible, etc. After all the basis of it is telling a lie. Why worry about smaller lies told in the process of telling the big one?

                  That means that "actors" are professional liars. That's how they make their money, making you temporarily believe a lie. The better they do so, the better actor they are judged to be.

                  So, being entertained by people telling lies is ingrained in most folks. Small step from there to believing those lies, or other ones............

                  And you cannot trust one single thing that an actor of any sort says. They tell lies all day as they work, after all. And they do it well.
                  Ah yes... Plato's argument against the arts. It's all deception! Except ancient Egyptian art. For some reason, he seemed okay with that.

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