Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Toolpost indicator holder

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • wierdscience
    replied
    Originally posted by Doozer View Post
    Sort of new on the market is MAGSWITCH magnets.
    They are stronger than ANY magnetic indicator base
    I have ever used. They have a ton of items on their
    web site, like table saw feather boards and a fence
    for the band saw. Even end effectors for robot arms.
    Funny they do not have one specifically configured
    for a dial indicator base. They are on Ebay but I
    picked up mine at Woodworkers Wearhouse the other
    day. Got the 150 pound pull model. It was $46.
    I plan on mounting a Noga arm on it. I am really
    impressed by their power and the on/off switch is very
    easy to turn. This magnet is a hidden gem. You might
    want to try one if you need a truly great indicator base.
    The 2 through holes can be tapped with a 10-32 tap
    to mount a plate adapter if you want.
    --Doozer
    I have a couple of their welding angle magnets, worth their weight in Gold. What I have really been lusting after is one of their Magdrills-

    The Magswitch MagDrill Disruptor 30 is a magnetic drill that utilizes patented shallow-field magnetic technology that offers incredibly strong grip, even on steel as thin as 1/8” with patent-pending base automatically pivots to conform to any pipe 3” or larger. Features & Benefits Powered by


    Leave a comment:


  • J Tiers
    replied
    Originally posted by Doozer View Post
    My only gripe with something like a Mighty Mag is you can not turn it off.
    I hate magnets that attract chips and they are so difficult to clean off.
    An air hose or a rag only get them so clean.

    -D
    That IS a major issue.

    Another is that the mighty-Mag is quite large, sticks only one way, and mine at least, has hole sizes that are not all what I'd like. Having the knobs on to actually clamp stuff in it also makes it even larger.

    I have another permanent base (no off-knob) that is a lot smaller, but quite strong. Yes, it attracts chips, but it's smaller and actually works decently. It may be a B&S, maybe a knock-off of something they sold, not sure. IIRC (I'm out of town) it has a marking on it that has an "omega" and a lightning bolt symbol. Something like that.

    Leave a comment:


  • Bob Engelhardt
    replied
    Originally posted by Randy View Post
    [...]
    This is one of the better YT's demonstrating the method.

    [...]
    I do it that way and it is really effective ... to .001 or 2 with 1-1/2 revolutions of the chuck.

    Leave a comment:


  • Fasturn
    replied
    Well said BC !! I did forget to mention some titanium and 303SE stainless steel. 303 has a permeability of one, so not magnetic. Not that I choose these materials for the mag base, just what I prefer for my projects. The sulfur makes it cut better than cold roll and no rusting. Now in the home shop the KSI / PSI requirements are not a problem. Just toys for Santa !

    Now on a mill I prefer the clip- on Indicol holder. No tool change necessary.

    Click image for larger version  Name:	41r4V9XtclL._SX466_.jpg Views:	0 Size:	18.4 KB ID:	2005096
    Last edited by Fasturn; 06-17-2022, 07:23 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • BCRider
    replied
    From your description where you're using so much nonmagnetic material I can see why you like a compact dedicated mag base with indicator. It makes a lot more sense now. However I do probably 65 to 75% of my own items in steel or iron. So chips on my magnets is really an issue. Plus I was put off using them early on by the clutter of arms on my own general use bases trying to find a good spot to set down and not hit things in and around the work pieces. If I used a dedicated mag base with very compact and simple arms then that would be a game changer. But then there's the steel chips on my big majority of items.... So since I do and since I didn't even now the dedicated holder that fits on the tool post is the best option for me. It's compact, it's always at the center height and it only requires me to move the carriage and cross slide minimal amounts to use the indicators then go back to the cutters.... But mostly the chips don't stick. As always YMMV applies due to our own circumstances.

    Leave a comment:


  • Fasturn
    replied
    Originally posted by Doozer View Post
    My only gripe with something like a Mighty Mag is you can not turn it off.
    I hate magnets that attract chips and they are so difficult to clean off.
    An air hose or a rag only get them so clean.

    -D
    Gee Doozer I had your back on this LOL. Funny but I work 90% with delrin, aluminium, copper and brass. No chips stuck to the mag. I have a on / off mag base, but too much effort with the arms. I may be old, but can pull that mag off the machine with one hand. Now getting down inside a bore with a post holder is silly. As BC said , to each their own, but I not going to waste a tool holder on simple indicator. That same mag with indicator is used to set the compound for angles. Mini magnetic sine bar. 4 jaw chucking, I prefer the clock at 12 not 9. Not a one trick pony.

    JR. We haven't had a good Row in quite a while !!
    LOL. 🍬

    Rant over, now it's a wonderful idea and we can move on to the next argument.
    Last edited by Fasturn; 06-17-2022, 03:44 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • IkeHarris
    replied
    My solution has evolved a little over the years in detail but the basic idea has remained:

    Click image for larger version

Name:	Combined Run Out.jpg
Views:	149
Size:	1.48 MB
ID:	2005064

    Leave a comment:


  • Doozer
    replied
    Sort of new on the market is MAGSWITCH magnets.
    They are stronger than ANY magnetic indicator base
    I have ever used. They have a ton of items on their
    web site, like table saw feather boards and a fence
    for the band saw. Even end effectors for robot arms.
    Funny they do not have one specifically configured
    for a dial indicator base. They are on Ebay but I
    picked up mine at Woodworkers Wearhouse the other
    day. Got the 150 pound pull model. It was $46.
    I plan on mounting a Noga arm on it. I am really
    impressed by their power and the on/off switch is very
    easy to turn. This magnet is a hidden gem. You might
    want to try one if you need a truly great indicator base.
    The 2 through holes can be tapped with a 10-32 tap
    to mount a plate adapter if you want.
    --Doozer

    Leave a comment:


  • Doozer
    replied
    My only gripe with something like a Mighty Mag is you can not turn it off.
    I hate magnets that attract chips and they are so difficult to clean off.
    An air hose or a rag only get them so clean.

    -D

    Leave a comment:


  • J Tiers
    replied
    I'd class the "mighty-Mag" as being "for the kids who do not know any better".

    I got one free in a toolbox, and never use it. It seems to be very string and almost useless compared to other options. About as flexible in range of use as a sledgehammer.

    Actually, it does have a use..... it holds notes to the rollaround toolbox pretty well.

    Leave a comment:


  • JRouche
    replied
    Originally posted by Fasturn View Post

    Not to gang up, but these holders in the tool post are for the kids. A mighty mag with the 1/4 shaft will do all of it. Lots of steel to put it on. Too limiting stuck in the post. It's a cute toy, just not my cup of Tea.-
    Not so. For kids"?

    We all have a mag base and dial or plunge indicator on our lathes right? This is not to take place of that but to be incorporated into our arsenal. If your arsenal of tools is limited to what you need for all the jobs you do then that IMO is limiting.

    If I want to cut five bars and do it fast this is a nice lil drop in for my wedge tool post. I suspect you dont have a wedge type tool post, cause otherwise you would see the simple-ness of it. JR


    Leave a comment:


  • BCRider
    replied
    Originally posted by Fasturn View Post

    Not to gang up, but these holders in the tool post are for the kids. A mighty mag with the 1/4 shaft will do all of it. Lots of steel to put it on. Too limiting stuck in the post. It's a cute toy, just not my cup of Tea.

    Click image for larger version

Name:	images.jpg
Views:	189
Size:	5.5 KB
ID:	2004929
    There's no right and wrong or clearly superior way to do this other than what works well for each of us.

    In my case I used a magnetic base with arms a few times. It was fumbling with where to stick the base all the time which made me make my first tool post indicator adapter. And a slam dunk that I was going to do something to make it even better with the new AXA post.

    Leave a comment:


  • J Tiers
    replied
    One advantage of the two wrench method is the ability to keep a grip on the part while adjusting. With one, you have no choice but to loosen the grip. With two, you can slacken one as you take up with the other.

    In certain cases, that can be really really helpful.

    Leave a comment:


  • SVS
    replied
    Randy-it’s mostly “arm too short”…though in thinking about it I will on the first or second go around slack one/tighten opposite before rotating the chuck. After that it’s “ease the lows-tighten the highs”.

    Leave a comment:


  • Fasturn
    replied
    Originally posted by Doozer View Post

    Not being a dick, (really)
    but I indicate faces all time
    if I am chucking something
    like a pulley or flange.
    I have a dedicated dovetail
    holder with an indicator like
    yours, that the indicator has
    a 1/4" stud off the back, and
    it can turn 180° in the holder
    so I can flip it and indicate
    the side or face of a part.
    It is in one of my videos,
    I don't have a pic to post right
    this minute.

    -D
    Not to gang up, but these holders in the tool post are for the kids. A mighty mag with the 1/4 shaft will do all of it. Lots of steel to put it on. Too limiting stuck in the post. It's a cute toy, just not my cup of Tea.

    Click image for larger version

Name:	images.jpg
Views:	189
Size:	5.5 KB
ID:	2004929

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X