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  • #16
    Keyless chucks are precision chucks
    NOT general purpose chucks.
    They are toolmaker type things
    not rough and tumble things.
    Now I am speaking about Albrecht
    and Rohm, not the thing on your
    battery drill. You really need a
    Jacobs key chuck for general work
    and save the Albrecht for precision
    things. No tools larger than their
    capacity. I have a New Brittan 1"
    capacity keyless. I treat it with careful
    use. I also have a 1" Jacobs super
    chuck in A1 shape, that I use for
    precision things, but something like
    holding straight shank big drills.
    The 1" Jacobs plain bearing chuck
    that I have, the jaws are all spun out
    of it. I use it accordingly. It is great
    for gripping tap shanks on larger taps.
    If the taps spins, time to reverse.
    Every tool has a range of use.
    If you are having problems, step back
    and assess what you are trying to
    accomplish and what you are using.
    I seen 2 goats in the back seat of a
    Chevy Caprice one time. Maybe not
    the right tool for the job. Think about
    that before putting whatever tool in
    your unsuspecting keyless chuck.

    -Doozer
    DZER

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    • #17
      Why? I've used my keyless Albrecht style (one is an actual Rohm brand) chucks for years now on my two drill presses and my lathe. The only reason I don't use one on the mill is because I don't use the drill chuck on that tool all that often and the one that came with the mill is fine.

      It's a convenience thing for me. I enjoy the quick, lower effort changes and not fumbling around with a key. This constant use does not seem to have altered how they perform over the years.

      I'm pretty sure that most of us that use them feel the same way and get the same utility out of them.

      I'm also a bit surprised at this sudden change of heart. You're the one that has posted frequently about how tooling is a consumable commodity.
      Chilliwack BC, Canada

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      • #18
        Constant use is not the problem.
        It is the constant bonehead use.

        I would say a chuck is a tool.
        Drills, taps, and end mills are tooling.
        But I dunno.

        -D
        DZER

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        • #19
          Well, I've no doubt that my use is causing some wear. But what there is it's very slow and very little. Out of the two older chucks that have been in use for over 20 years (the one on my small drill press since the mid 1980's) if there is any wear or change in how they grip it's precious little and not in any way noticeable or significant.

          However using hole saws on cast iron is right off the board now. Don't need THAT lesson again....
          Chilliwack BC, Canada

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          • #20
            Dumb Question ?
            Why do you need a wrench ? Its made for hand torquing !

            Rich
            ( 3 Albrecht s, 1 Rohm and 6 Jacobs )
            My Albrecht's and the N14 are all for precision work)
            Green Bay, WI

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Rich Carlstedt View Post
              Dumb Question ?
              Why do you need a wrench ? Its made for hand torquing !

              Rich
              ( 3 Albrecht s, 1 Rohm and 6 Jacobs )
              My Albrecht's and the N14 are all for precision work)
              When I got the Shars Rohm-ish chuck they told me the wrench should only be used (if needed) to loosen (unloosen, As Joe Pie says) the chuck jaws.


              EDIT: Changed "Put" to "Pie" (fat fingers on my phone's keypad).
              Last edited by ChazzC; 08-03-2022, 11:15 AM.
              Avid Amateur Home Shop Machinist, Electronics Enthusiast, Chef, Indoorsman. Self-Proclaimed (Dabbler? Dilettante?) Renaissance (old) Man.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Doozer View Post
                Keyless chucks are precision chucks
                NOT general purpose chucks.
                They are toolmaker type things
                not rough and tumble things.
                Now I am speaking about Albrecht
                and Rohm, not the thing on your
                battery drill. You really need a
                Jacobs key chuck for general work
                and save the Albrecht for precision
                things. No tools larger than their
                capacity. I have a New Brittan 1"
                capacity keyless. I treat it with careful
                use. I also have a 1" Jacobs super
                chuck in A1 shape, that I use for
                precision things, but something like
                holding straight shank big drills.
                The 1" Jacobs plain bearing chuck
                that I have, the jaws are all spun out
                of it. I use it accordingly. It is great
                for gripping tap shanks on larger taps.
                If the taps spins, time to reverse.
                Every tool has a range of use.
                If you are having problems, step back
                and assess what you are trying to
                accomplish and what you are using.
                I seen 2 goats in the back seat of a
                Chevy Caprice one time. Maybe not
                the right tool for the job. Think about
                that before putting whatever tool in
                your unsuspecting keyless chuck.

                -Doozer
                This makes sense to me. Contradicts what many say, but nothing new about good advice contradicting many other "advisors".
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