Advice or Ideas for spanner on Rohm Chuck

[Doozer]

Keyless chucks are precision chucks
NOT general purpose chucks.
They are toolmaker type things
not rough and tumble things.
Now I am speaking about Albrecht
and Rohm, not the thing on your
battery drill. You really need a
Jacobs key chuck for general work
and save the Albrecht for precision
things. No tools larger than their
capacity. I have a New Brittan 1"
capacity keyless. I treat it with careful
use. I also have a 1" Jacobs super
chuck in A1 shape, that I use for
precision things, but something like
holding straight shank big drills.
The 1" Jacobs plain bearing chuck
that I have, the jaws are all spun out
of it. I use it accordingly. It is great
for gripping tap shanks on larger taps.
If the taps spins, time to reverse.
Every tool has a range of use.
If you are having problems, step back
and assess what you are trying to
accomplish and what you are using.
I seen 2 goats in the back seat of a
Chevy Caprice one time. Maybe not
the right tool for the job. Think about
that before putting whatever tool in
your unsuspecting keyless chuck.

-Doozer

[BCRider]

Why? I've used my keyless Albrecht style (one is an actual Rohm brand) chucks for years now on my two drill presses and my lathe. The only reason I don't use one on the mill is because I don't use the drill chuck on that tool all that often and the one that came with the mill is fine.

It's a convenience thing for me. I enjoy the quick, lower effort changes and not fumbling around with a key. This constant use does not seem to have altered how they perform over the years.

I'm pretty sure that most of us that use them feel the same way and get the same utility out of them.

I'm also a bit surprised at this sudden change of heart. You're the one that has posted frequently about how tooling is a consumable commodity.

[Doozer]

Constant use is not the problem.
It is the constant bonehead use.

I would say a chuck is a tool.
Drills, taps, and end mills are tooling.
But I dunno.

-D

[BCRider]

Well, I've no doubt that my use is causing some wear. But what there is it's very slow and very little. Out of the two older chucks that have been in use for over 20 years (the one on my small drill press since the mid 1980's) if there is any wear or change in how they grip it's precious little and not in any way noticeable or significant.

However using hole saws on cast iron is right off the board now. Don't need THAT lesson again....

[Rich Carlstedt]

Dumb Question ?
Why do you need a wrench ? Its made for hand torquing !

Rich
( 3 Albrecht s, 1 Rohm and 6 Jacobs )
My Albrecht's and the N14 are all for precision work)

[ChazzC]

Dumb Question ?
Why do you need a wrench ? Its made for hand torquing !

Rich
( 3 Albrecht s, 1 Rohm and 6 Jacobs )
My Albrecht's and the N14 are all for precision work)

When I got the Shars Rohm-ish chuck they told me the wrench should only be used (if needed) to loosen (unloosen, As Joe Pie says) the chuck jaws.


EDIT: Changed "Put" to "Pie" (fat fingers on my phone's keypad).

[J Tiers]

Keyless chucks are precision chucks
NOT general purpose chucks.
They are toolmaker type things
not rough and tumble things.
Now I am speaking about Albrecht
and Rohm, not the thing on your
battery drill. You really need a
Jacobs key chuck for general work
and save the Albrecht for precision
things. No tools larger than their
capacity. I have a New Brittan 1"
capacity keyless. I treat it with careful
use. I also have a 1" Jacobs super
chuck in A1 shape, that I use for
precision things, but something like
holding straight shank big drills.
The 1" Jacobs plain bearing chuck
that I have, the jaws are all spun out
of it. I use it accordingly. It is great
for gripping tap shanks on larger taps.
If the taps spins, time to reverse.
Every tool has a range of use.
If you are having problems, step back
and assess what you are trying to
accomplish and what you are using.
I seen 2 goats in the back seat of a
Chevy Caprice one time. Maybe not
the right tool for the job. Think about
that before putting whatever tool in
your unsuspecting keyless chuck.

-Doozer

This makes sense to me. Contradicts what many say, but nothing new about good advice contradicting many other "advisors".