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    Chewing the fat here, more than anything else:

    I was running my goofy Drexel forklift on Sunday, unloading some large oak logs. The heaviest, according to my forestry book, should weight around 3500lbs. The forklift lifted it up like it was no problem, even beyond the free-lift range. I've also used this forklift to pick up (barely) one of my Pacemaker lathes after removing the carriage and tailstock (with the carriage and tailstock, it weighs about 6000 lbs). This Drexel forklift supposedly has a lifting capacity of 3000 lbs. but the truck itself weighs some 12,500 lbs. (more typical of a 5-6k capacity truck). It does have a swing mast, so I always assumed the 3k rating and the ridiculously heavy truck weight was because you could carry the load 90* to the direction of travel, making tipping over more of a hazard.

    But here's the interesting part: it seems like it can lift quite a bit more than 3k lbs. I expected the pressure relief valve to open when the load was at 3k-ish lbs. (let's say 3500 lbs.). The service manual says that 2500 psi is the setting of the pressure relief valve and I verified that it does build to 2500 psi before opening by running the mast all the way up with a gauge on the valve block. The free-lift cylinder is 2.5" diameter rod, so I figure that's an area of 4.9 square inches. That, times 2500 psi yields 12,270 lbs. force. So I would expect the free-lift capacity to be about 6000 lbs. since the lift chains act as a 2:1 "overdrive". Anecdotally, I don't think it will lift 6000 lbs., but it sure seems to lift more than 3000 lbs.

    What am I missing? Do they really just slap a tag on it that says the capacity is only 3000 lbs. even though, mechanically / hydraulically, it will lift much more? I would have thought that they would design everything with a factor of safety but then limit the actual amount it can pick up by dialing down the hydraulic pressure...?


  • #2
    Most forklifts have a rating at a given distance from the mast.
    The closer to the mast, the greater the capacity.

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    • #3
      Here's more than you'll ever need to know about how fork trucks are rated: https://www.conger.com/forklift-weight-capacity/

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      • #4
        Yeah, I've got to have a forklift license for work, which means annual training where we go over all that. Honestly, that's why I'm a bit perplexed. As the link says, the rated capacity is typically greater than the actual capacity. I seem to have run into the exact opposite...

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        • #5
          Most forklift capacity is based on a load centered at 24" from the mast and is rated to safely have the steering wheels on the ground.
          This of course is determined by the counterweight and wheel base.
          The hydraulic system has much greater capacity than the rating for the forklift
          for example :
          We had no crane over our Horizontal Boring Mill and a truck crane was not available at work , so i made a 12" x 4" beam x 24 ' long
          and welded a 2 x8" C channel shoe on one end , then had two 3,000 # forklifts straddle the 18' pit to load a 13,000 # Die part on the mill
          Because the beam was right next to the hoist , and the shoe made sure the beam did not roll, we successfully placed the part on the mill
          You must be careful playing with the pressure release valve settings , as in some engines , the pump is driven by the camshaft and I know
          of one forklift where the camshaft exploded because of improper settings.
          Rich

          PS , your lifting of the Pacemaker is not a surprise
          Green Bay, WI

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          • #6
            Does capacity naturally drop 50% above the free lift range?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SVS View Post
              Does capacity naturally drop 50% above the free lift range?
              I suppose it depends on the forklift, but my free lift still makes use of the same lift chain arrangement of the rest of the mast, i.e. for every 1" the cylinder travels, the forks move 2". Hence the factor of 2 divisor.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Fasttrack View Post

                I suppose it depends on the forklift, but my free lift still makes use of the same lift chain arrangement of the rest of the mast, i.e. for every 1" the cylinder travels, the forks move 2". Hence the factor of 2 divisor.
                My real question is wether you’re lift capacity drops to ~3000lbs when the forks gets above the free lift stage. If so, the 3,000lb. rating would make sense.

                Maybe swinging the mast triggers a reduced pressure relief circuit.

                I’m just spitballing here….

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                • #9
                  Do you have a model number for this unit you own? In a quick search I see the swing forks and also they are marketed as a 'narrow aisle' So at full lift with the load swung to the side I can see the very low rating. If you can factory literature I'll bet you find a chart for rating in different positions and configurations.

                  lg
                  no neat sig line
                  near Salem OR

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SVS View Post

                    My real question is wether you’re lift capacity drops to ~3000lbs when the forks gets above the free lift stage. If so, the 3,000lb. rating would make sense.

                    Maybe swinging the mast triggers a reduced pressure relief circuit.

                    I’m just spitballing here….
                    Oh I see - no, I have the full maintenance manual including hydraulic schematics and there isn't any interlock between the lift cylinders and the swing cylinder.

                    Larry - Unfortunately, they don't provide anything like that in the operator's or maintenance manual.

                    All the other forklifts I've operated generally follow the same "curve", for lack of a better word, when it comes to capacity at different extensions and lift heights. For example, our 5K forklift at work will lift about 6.5k if it's close to the mast and just free lift. It stalls with 6k when the mast starts to raise and the steering tires are pretty light. 6.5k in the center of the forks won't lift at all. It's rated for 5k at full mast extension (187") and I've had no problem lifting 4500 lbs. to full extension. So the rating and the truck capability is pretty equally matched...

                    This Drexel - on the the other hand - seems quite disproportionate if the free lift is really about 6k lbs. And it would seem to be a safety issue if it will lift 6k in the "forward" orientation but then tip over if the mast is swung with that weight. I would have expected them to dial down the hydraulic pressure to make it more idiot proof. Of course, this forklift is pretty old - maybe they didn't worry so much about idiot-proofing things back then.

                    In the end, it doesn't really matter much. I'm just surprised based on my experience with Cat and Toyota forklifts...

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