OT good flying, but risky

[Richard P Wilson]

When Germany was firing flying bombs at London in WW2, the RAF developed a technique for a fighter aircraft to fly alongside the flying bomb, put its wing under the wing of the flying bomb and tip it over so it would crash in open country before getting to London.

I don't suppose that a modern fighter jet and a drone have a compatible speed for this technique to be used.

[A.K. Boomer]

When Germany was firing flying bombs at London in WW2, the RAF developed a technique for a fighter aircraft to fly alongside the flying bomb, put its wing under the wing of the flying bomb and tip it over so it would crash in open country before getting to London.

I don't suppose that a modern fighter jet and a drone have a compatible speed for this technique to be used.

Yes the drones are very "slow" Hence the heavy "pull up arc" of the fighter jets while dumping the fuel and approaching the drone, and also why it's a very dangerous maneuver....

[old mart]

How many blades on that type of drones propellor?

[JRouche]

No one cares. Lock thread.

Ok master of the Universe.. You are absolutely delusional and incorrect, again. Spouting things like "lock thread" hahahaa!.. No "one cares" huh? What kind of statement is that? Because you don't care that means no one cares? Talk about self centered. Its like saying out load to no one in particular, ban Doozer!! JR

[vectorwarbirds]

That US drone which was brought down by Russian jets was reputedly hit on its propellor. So the jet would have to had flown right up its rear to do that, more danger to the Russian than to a drone. And dumping fuel in front of it at the speed it was likely to have been going would have been close to the jets stalling speed. I would like to see some of the drones camera footage.

Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01PJ...channel=TheSun

[vectorwarbirds]

Gesus people the US and Russia have been doing this kind of sh*t for 70 years! All this media 'the sky is falling' the 'Russians are coming!' crap to keep us distracted from our real problems. Its either the Russkies or or the Chinese communist's, lets start paying attention to our own problems don't ya think?

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/air-space-magazine/secret-casualties-of-the-cold-war-180967122/

[Michael Edwards]

I think the answer is obvious - the "impact" was not "intentional" the pilot screwed up... ..

This was my take as well. Looks like a classic case of The more you F-around the more you Find out.

[huntinguy]

The fighter pilots said that the only reason the thing was damaged was that it made an unexpected maneuver into the jets. This rings true to me, no pilot would use his plane to damage a drone. If the jet fighter's intention was to bring it down, they could have easily done so with on board systems. As far as what airspace, we'll never know.

It was a move used in WWII by the British to change the course of the V1 rockets. It was further perfected by the Chinese/North Koreans during the Korean conflict to bring down a US Jet fighter so they could get a closer look at it.
I don't recall now... might be called wing tipping. the move is to push the other planes wingtip with the the wingtip of the other aircraft and thus destabilize its flight.

sounds like the Russian just did it wrong.

[huntinguy]

as for jets going fast... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_pcN_PFy8M
tail walking they can go very slow if they want to.

[RB211]

Cold War antics, nothing more

[tom_d]

The fighter pilots said that the only reason the thing was damaged was that it made an unexpected maneuver into the jets. This rings true to me, no pilot would use his plane to damage a drone. If the jet fighter's intention was to bring it down, they could have easily done so with on board systems. As far as what airspace, we'll never know.

Cold War antics, nothing more

"an unexpected maneuver"

Flying that close to the drone was intentional. Cold War antics should come as a surprise to no one. As for the results of this close maneuvering, two words: wake turbulence.

[A.K. Boomer]

. As for the results of this close maneuvering, two words: wake turbulence.

"wake turbulence" don't turn props into pretzels... The Jet impacted the drone...

I will add, after the "collision" the camera lost footage - this is typical for digital recordings it just gets scrambled with information it is not capable of assimilating as "things are happening too fast"

then it appears the camera "resumes" ,,, how long of a gap is unknown to me, but it's even possible that it's way beyond "impact" due to the prop being pretzeled --- so it may have never regained footage UNTIL the Drone received information to shut the engine down be it automatically or ground control override,

there's no doubt that the rear camera of the craft would have also been undergoing incredible vibrations from the out of balance prop,,, again possibly creating way to fast of information for the digital processing to take place, in which cutting power might have regained viewing, I have no idea if it was "just" the impact or Both that affected the outage, but i do think it's open for some good speculation...

[tom_d]

"wake turbulence" don't turn props into pretzels... The Jet impacted the drone...

Wake turbulence won't break a propeller, but it will toss an aircraft around, increasing the potential for an unintended collision.

[Guido]

4 bladed prop in the drone video; why would a search of pinterest show all MQ 9 drones with THREE blades?
Cold war crap as RB200 said

[A.K. Boomer]

Wake turbulence won't break a propeller, but it will toss an aircraft around, increasing the potential for an unintended collision.

Sure, but it's called "wake" for a reason --- the Jet is long gone by the time the drone experiences anything to do with wake turbulence,

Now two jets could create this effect for the latter Jet to have to deal with the "upset drones trajectory" creating a problem --- but who's fault would that have been? not the drones, also -- footage clearly shows a very stable drone before impact...

so this was "single pilot error" with the fault clearly on the Jet pilot that collided into the drone...