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  • Originally posted by A.K. Boomer View Post

    Our overall concept of the universe...

    You will get a very different take on that as it's not only still evolving - but it's in dispute even amongst the experts, now give them all about a decade and get back to me... I don't believe it's going to get any simpler in fact even more theories will abound, some of the "new discoveries" will effect current ones...

    Whoever "designed" this place sure did not want to layout a cut and dry blueprint,,, lol
    The motion of a gyroscope is very well understood using our present knowledge of physics. Any changes in our "overall concept of the universe" will have no measurable effect on that.

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    • Originally posted by tomato coupe View Post

      The motion of a gyroscope is very well understood using our present knowledge of physics. Any changes in our "overall concept of the universe" will have no measurable effect on that.
      I can somewhat agree on that - at least for awhile, lol after all in the big time machine of learning one has to keep in mind that the motion/forces of the gyroscope have been recently updated, at least for some who signed off on a misconception of how they "used to work" inertia wise.... so that does buy you a little time...

      but your statement of "will have no measurable effect on that" Wow --- no measurable effect, and who know's how long this species will go on, no game changers, even in a small measurable way --- now I definitely don't have your kind of foresight to sign off on that one, I don't know whether to call your statement naive or arrogant lol but to each their own...

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      • Ok thinking twice about it - your probably right due to my one statement where I put my foot in my mouth about "and who knows how long this species will go on" lol dammit should not have brought that up, I think time is probably on your side on this one...

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        • I bet Derv Nagy could sort out this thread in no time.

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          • How about someone answering one of my questions I asked long ago on this topic, and I would prefer an aviation pilot, and one that has flown with vacuum operated devises.

            Is there ever any concern when going into a full throttle ROC minutes on end with a normally aspirated piston engine that you could stall out one of your vacuum driven gyro's ?

            I seriously would like to know the answer to that... do they avoid the whole throttle plate fiasco and just go with a segregated vacuum pump like some diesel trucks or cars do???

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            • And in still keeping with the topic "Flywheels yet again"

              So bro comes out to pick up my recyclables and I had him jump on the pedal powered wood splitter and fed it what was left of the wood to split,,, he was laughing his ass off while pedaling, then I said "wish I had something bigger so you could see what this baby can do"
              meaning my modified subaru power steering pump lol and then seen my years old chopping block and said OWTF lets throw this in there, I have no idea what the wood is from but it's crosslinked and tough stuff that's why I kept it as a chopping block for years,

              so you can see my bro's eyes light up to the challenge - yes another cyclist he is, full steam ahead - bogged him down a little then he poured the coals to it and no match the thing gave it up with a loud CRACK...

              I can say this in all my years --- I have built allot of different stuff for the almighty bicycle - but I have not had anything close to this kinda "inertia storage",,, I got one hell of a flywheel... this thing could actually take off and seek the universe and then lock onto it all on it's own, in fact its a damn fair chunk of it....

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              • Originally posted by A.K. Boomer View Post
                How about someone answering one of my questions I asked long ago on this topic, and I would prefer an aviation pilot, and one that has flown with vacuum operated devises.

                Is there ever any concern when going into a full throttle ROC minutes on end with a normally aspirated piston engine that you could stall out one of your vacuum driven gyro's ?

                I seriously would like to know the answer to that... do they avoid the whole throttle plate fiasco and just go with a segregated vacuum pump like some diesel trucks or cars do???
                You already know the answer to this question and if I told what that answer is you would argue it is something else. Enjoy yourself dude.

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                • Originally posted by A.K. Boomer View Post

                  one has to keep in mind that the motion/forces of the gyroscope have been recently updated, at least for some who signed off on a misconception of how they "used to work" inertia wise....
                  Do you not have a cosy bridge you can go back under?

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                  • Originally posted by The Artful Bodger View Post

                    Do you not have a cosy bridge you can go back under?
                    Oh dear god - the genius is back lol

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                    • Originally posted by The Artful Bodger View Post

                      You already know the answer to this question and if I told what that answer is you would argue it is something else. Enjoy yourself dude.
                      No I don't that's why I asked it - I have no idea what the spool down is on a vacuum operated gyro, maybe I do already know the answer if I already guessed that it's a segregated vacuum pump. but besides that - have zero idea and have not "googled" anything, guess I will now...





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                      • Originally posted by A.K. Boomer View Post

                        Oh dear god - the genius is back lol
                        Your adoring audience is waiting for you to explain the recent misconception of how gyros "used to work" inertia wise....

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                        • Originally posted by The Artful Bodger View Post

                          You already know the answer to this question and if I told what that answer is you would argue it is something else. Enjoy yourself dude.
                          I guess the segregated pump is at least an option, https://www.aviationsafetymagazine.c...e-and-feeding/ so is the intake manifold...

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                          • Originally posted by A.K. Boomer View Post

                            I guess the segregated pump is at least an option, https://www.aviationsafetymagazine.c...e-and-feeding/ so is the intake manifold...
                            ...keep at it. This should at least be easier than explaining how a gyro does (not) work.

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                            • Originally posted by The Artful Bodger View Post

                              Your adoring audience is waiting for you to explain the recent misconception of how gyros "used to work" inertia wise....
                              Oh --- according to you and Mach, inertia in an individual gyro works due to all the other crap floating around in the universe,,, did we get that one right? you know - about u being wrong? lol

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                              • Originally posted by The Artful Bodger View Post

                                ...keep at it. This should at least be easier than explaining how a gyro does (not) work.
                                No need - already got it covered with what I knew about "ground bound diesels" needing to power up their master brake cylinder boosters (cars) without a throttle plate --- stick around and learn a thing or two ,,, Next lesson "Wicker basket weaving" lol OMG !!!

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