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  • #31
    Originally posted by The Artful Bodger View Post



    Next time say 'please'.
    Oh wow had no idea it was that heavy looking --- how about a "no thank you" instead of please lol but please do show how the motion is turned into rotary cuz that could prove actually much heavier --- or did this POS try to flap it's wings?

    and sorry "January 1903 --- well maybe" sounds like something people on secluded islands try to come up with when they got beat to the punch...

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    • #32
      Oh, so you can tell the weight of something by it's colour? Such a clever chappie.

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      • #33
        HMS engine builders? His (or Her) Majesty's Service?
        http://pauleschoen.com/pix/PM08_P76_P54.png
        Paul , P S Technology, Inc. and MrTibbs
        USA Maryland 21030

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Doozer View Post
          I would never refer to a HSM as an engine builder.

          -D
          Yeah, I wouldn't either.

          Kinda like when some one says he rebuilt a lathe or mill. He most likely did not. They may have tore it down, changed the bearings and checked the oiling system. Well, that is called a re-build or a refurbish. Either way, its a re-build. Not a Build as in builder. . Semantics? Naw. JR

          P.S> I do have a build folder for all my engine builds, you kinda have to.

          My engine build books starts with the raw block and all the build up from there. Keeping tolerances is all I am concerned with. The plus or minus is in the .0003" range for friction surfaces, the entire block, including rings... . JR

          P.P.S~ I forgot. there might be some young folks here. My build folder is a three ring binder for each, just to clarify, its not a windows Folder. JR

          Last edited by JRouche; 05-26-2023, 03:46 AM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by The Artful Bodger View Post
            So what?

            My achievements, no matter how modest, are more than a match for your imaginary ones.
            You do know the bloody thing ran right? lol Yup, should have known better and I did..

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            • #36
              Originally posted by The Artful Bodger View Post
              Oh, so you can tell the weight of something by it's colour? Such a clever chappie.
              Again where's the thing that turns it into a rotary motion? you know - the flywheel that when spinning "locks onto the universe"...

              Engine must have had wonderful balance - two pistons linked to one straight shaft jerking around back and forth at the same time, probably shook the airframe apart just idling - no wonder they never got off the ground in time... 25 horsepower? they must go by Shetland ponies on that side of the pond,,,

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              • #37
                Originally posted by JRouche View Post

                Yeah, I wouldn't either.

                JR
                I made a play on words joke.
                People can call themselves what they want.
                Hence my reply about me being a porn star.
                Trying to continue the funny.
                I just don't record it.

                -D
                DZER

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by RB211 View Post

                  Who would you call the home shop machinist that built the engine on the Wright Flyer for their first flight? The FAA to this day gives out an award each year to mechanics in his name.
                  I am familiar with Charlie Taylor for sure.

                  -D
                  DZER

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by A.K. Boomer View Post
                    My very own P.A.C. (Port Aspiration Concept) I built when i was a kid - adapted to a GN-400 suzuki, basically two tubes spinning inside of tubes, sealed by volkwagon piston rings and Mazda rotary apex seals... the carb was mounted on the other side with a rotating seal and the exhaust was full bore wide open...

                    I built a four stroke without valves when I was just 23...

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                    That sounds like an awesome head conversion.
                    Would you say it is like a Corless valve type of head?
                    I think Smokey Unick made a Chevy head with spinning tube rotating valves.

                    -D
                    DZER

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                    • #40
                      The rotating valve concept is similar to the Corliss. The Corliss used a rocking arrangement for port opening/closing.
                      It's advantage in the steam world was that it's steam admission duration could be changed to throttle the engine and react to loads.

                      Sid

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Doozer View Post

                        That sounds like an awesome head conversion.
                        Would you say it is like a Corless valve type of head?
                        I think Smokey Unick made a Chevy head with spinning tube rotating valves.

                        -D
                        It's bizarre looking back on it - No machinery, just unstoppable drive to get it done I did have to take things to a machine shop to get the slots cut for the apex seals,


                        I do remember these guys, I believe they were out of Canada, there was no internet or anything back in them days but somehow found out about their spherical design and it came out about the same time I finished my project,
                        I did a little research on them a few years back, it seems as if they migrated to the diesel realm,,, I possibly know why, you cannot beat valves for perfectly sealing off the combustion gasses, I was getting occasional popping back through the intake track - but the diesel is immune to this effect - nothing to ignite there... who knows now with direct injection gas and them having trouble keeping intake valves clean maybe something like the Coates Rotary's will find a path into mainstream...

                        The Coates Spherical Rotary Valve System is one of the most advanced engine technologies in the world


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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by sid pileski View Post
                          The rotating valve concept is similar to the Corliss. The Corliss used a rocking arrangement for port opening/closing.
                          It's advantage in the steam world was that it's steam admission duration could be changed to throttle the engine and react to loads.

                          Sid
                          I remember studying just about every valve train design ever invented along with reciprocating ports built directly into cylinder liners themselves,,,

                          Ton's of different Desmodromic valve train designs but Fabio Taglioni was always one of my hero's that way still is...

                          I just dug up the Apex seals and tensioners I used for the build, To this day I have no idea how I got ahold of them, I do know they are from a Mazda rotary engine, I fear I may have entered a salvage yard late at night on a full moon and like a werewolf disassembled a rotary engine and ran off with the seals...

                          These are early model apex seals, meaning they came from the models that had a separate small anti freeze tank that injected small amounts of anti-freeze into the intake track and combustion chamber upon start up - just for a few seconds, it kept the ceramic composite seals from breaking,,, is there a chemist in the house? am told burning ethylene glycol at high temps is not a very healthy choice,,,,

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by A.K. Boomer View Post
                            Again where's the thing that turns it into a rotary motion?
                            Do your own research.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Doozer View Post

                              I made a play on words joke.
                              People can call themselves what they want.
                              Hence my reply about me being a porn star.
                              Trying to continue the funny.
                              I just don't record it.

                              -D
                              There are two things about jokes.

                              Can it be received as told, or can the teller send it. You Sir can not do one or the other. JR

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by A.K. Boomer View Post
                                .................................................. ....please do show how the motion is turned into rotary cuz that could prove actually much heavier --- or did this POS try to flap it's wings?
                                .............................
                                It is actually pretty simple, and you should be able to imagine the method used before actually seeing the diagram of it (which you can find in under 2 minutes on line). There are only a few possible methods, given the way the engine is made. Mechanically, it is not a good method, IMO, but.......
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