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  • OT Its not the years --- it the mileage

    I really did great up until the age of 40 then I took up white water kayaking and all hell broke loose (literally), the very nature of this sport puts allot of wear on your lower back and i want to undue much of that compression so yesterday i built me an inverted chair and i actually got it done in time to use it late last night, I already feel so much better, this morning i feel great, I didnt want to hang up side down by boots because i feel that that stretches out the tendons in your ankles and knee's but an inverted chair avoids this and you basically keep your upper legs bent and the only thing holding you is your hips, your feet go up to a foot brace and this is what keeps your legs bent, very cool, Heres the kicker, This system is only good if its used and you know how we all get, time is an issue and all that crap,,, ssssoooooooooo,,, im thinking of getting me a flat screen monitor and hanging it up side down complete with upside down keyboard, im going to have to invest in a laser mouse because the standard mouse will be rendered inop. ,,, Yup --- you got it, an upside down computer desk, I will have to sip my morning green tea through a straw and eating breakfast will prove difficult but i think it can be done, im telling you guys I have not felt this good in along time,iv been pinching off my wirering harness in many places, been reading about the effects of spinal decompression and you can actually regrow more disc if you allow it to "breath", this is going down ----- and once my electric fly swatters get here and i get rid of this ear hair for good I will be absolutly unstoppable ---------- life is good fella's, got no complaints...

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    Hanging upside down can cause hemorrhagic strokes.
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      I think im gonna be alright, I drank a quart of red wine last night and hung for 45 minutes ----- this was the test, already taking an aspirin a day for thin blood then throw in a quart of red wine to thin it even further, hung and didnt spring a leak ---- im good to go bro.

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        Its the Finns that have to be careful --- im still operating at normal blood pressures, the finns do a hot sauna in the middle of winter, heart rate sky rockets and bloods vessles dialate then they go and jump in an ice cold lake! you have any idea what that doesn to B.P. ? heart rate still stays high for awhile yet all the blood vessles shrink drastically, usually --- if they make it through the first time they make it the rest of thier lives ----- and it really is considered healthy ------- as long as you dont have a blow out...

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        • #5
          A couple pages of Google searching (both web and images) turned up nothing to tell me what an "inverted chair" looks like. How about a picture?

          Roger
          Any products mentioned in my posts have been endorsed by their manufacturer.

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          • #6
            OT- up the creek

            AK!

            Great thing this whitewater lark! Too old now but I paddled in the British Nationals. Came nowhere but what the hell. Used to paddle with George Flint, the 1948 Olympic coach.

            I am now really expert with the other sport that you mentioned- red wine drinking.

            I do watch the River Isere in France which is just below our ski apartment.
            Grade 4 and 4 stuff and wish I was just that bit younger. Huge skin graft on left hand may put the mockers on it if old age wasn't an issue.

            Nice to have another bloody idiot around.

            Cheers

            Norm

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            • #7
              Originally posted by A.K. Boomer
              I think im gonna be alright, I drank a quart of red wine last night and hung for 45 minutes ----- this was the test, already taking an aspirin a day for thin blood then throw in a quart of red wine to thin it even further, hung and didnt spring a leak ---- im good to go bro.

              I just remembered this (cuz i was half lit) I sneezed last night while upside down,,, i dont want to make that a habit, im serious...

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              • #8
                If you want to completely unload your spine you don't need to hang upside down. All that is required is to lie on a table with your head about ten inches lower than your feet. That is how NASA does ground based studies to simulate the effect of microgravity on the spine and head.

                You have a set of pressure sensors in your body called baro receptors. They regulate the blood pressure gradient from head to foot. They aren't able to regulate correctly when hanging upside down as this is not a position we are adapted to. Lying down, even with head lower than feet, is no problem and is within the regulation capacity of the baroreflex.
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                • #9
                  Well I never,
                  You learn something new every day don't you.

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                  Sir John , Earl of Bligeport & Sudspumpwater. MBE [ Motor Bike Engineer ] Nottingham England.



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                  • #10
                    BTW, I should mention that one of the side effects that the astronauts commonly experience from zero-gee is an increase in height cause by the unloading of the spine. This is usually accompanied by severe back pain.
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                    • #11
                      Here is a study on the phenomenon.

                      6 degrees head-down tilt as a back pain model for actual microgravity.
                      Hutchinson KJ, Hargens AR, Murthy G, Watenpaugh DE, Convertino VA, Wing PC.
                      FASEB J. 1993 Feb 23; 7: A666. Life Sci. Div., NASA ARC, Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000.
                      Astronauts often experience back pain during space flight. Retrospectively, Wing et al. (Orthop. Clinics N. Amer. 22:255, 1991) found that during space flight 72% of 19 shuttle crew members experienced back pain, which they described as dull (62%), localized to the lower back (50%), and with an intensity of 2 on the 5 point McGill Questionnaire scale.

                      http://gateway.nlm.nih.gov/robot_pag...102212924.html
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                      • #12
                        Well I never,
                        You learn something new every day don't you.
                        naughty naughty Alistair
                        Please excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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                        • #13
                          I understand that before the industrial revolution; a couple of sessions on the Rack could relieve pressure on the spine and lenghten the body a few inches.

                          I believe that a computer operated Rack with flashing neon and a bright paint job, and the right marketing, could be a money maker today.

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                          • #14
                            Alright Norm,,, what a crazy sport, I paddled with many class 5 boaters but I remained a class four and even soloed some --- I actually think thats the most intence experiance of my life was solo boating because its all up to you and there is no backup, I lost a brother in the yellowstone years ago and this was always in the back of my mind, I know so many boaters who really dont respect the water as much as they should , double the speed - quadrouple the force, what a blast though, and what a strange bunch of people the river folk are!
                            Im not afraid to say that iv scouted some stuff that actually made my knee's clunk together just by looking at it, then you hop in your boat and run it!
                            Just like anything the tech. is awesome as compared to just a decade ago, my back wasnt in the best of shape when i started boating but it went down hill very fast after,

                            Evan, I always take your advise to heart, One of the things iv learned last night is not to jump right on and flip over imediatly, its a little uncomfortable that way and i need to take it in stages then i dont feel the pressure much at all.

                            Winchman my chair is nothing to brag about --- its built of two by fours and is stationary, some of the chairs iv seen on line you sit in and they rotate, they are hard to find and just a half year ago there was a manufacturer that was building them for just over a hundred bucks yet like you when i went to look for it this last week I couldnt find any except a 400 dollar one... My chair cost me $18.87

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                            • #15
                              Evan --- what the facts is,,, chiropractors are increasingly useing spinal decomp therapy more and more because they realize the bennies in doing so ,,, I had one tell me to think of the spine discs as a sponge, then he said --- crunch a sponge up in your hand and dip it in a bucket of water --- now pull it out --- release and tell me how much water is in it ---nothing --- thats exactly what happens to our discs because they are under constant pressure, even when we sleep our muscles hold our spine tight --- without fluid exchange there can be no healing or trading off of nutrients, without this your symptoms cant help but worsen.

                              As far as the back pain being more after decompression i can attest to this;
                              (and this is after years of doing self taught spinal decomp.) after the spine has been decompressed great care should be taken to allow it to come back together very slowly otherwise much pain and posible injury could result... if care is taken and the process done right you may have a couple creaks and grones but should feel much better almost imediatly thereafter,

                              The inverted chair is an extreme aproach but thats how i do stuff, One thing for sure, to sit on my hands and do nothing is a guarantee that my condition will worsen, im not going done that road...

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