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    I've been thinking about getting a shaper. One of the shapers I was looking at on ebay sold for only $102.50. (Of course then there is the subjecto of SHIPPING!) Just look at this shaper at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...511916148&rd=1

    My question is about the line between the practical size and too big. If this machine were in my city I would have been the new owner (I don't know if I could have talked my friends into helping me move that Behemoth.) I also don't have three phase power but I have used converters with success in the past. Also I remember how three phase power is so much different to use, because of how it draws more current depending on the load. And you just can't seem to slow it down no matter how thick a piece you are cutting. I have a SB 9" lathe and I would like to have a mill or shaper in about the same size or capacity. The mentioned Shaper is obviously outside of that criterion. Is the value of that machine basically inhibited by its weight or capacity? Are there other problems that are not apparent to the desirous shaper buyer?

    Spence

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    Yes Spence
    AS shapers get bigger, they get cheaper.
    A 7 inch may go for 500 while a 16 inch is hauled to the junkers even when free.
    A 7 inch machine is ideal for a home shop.
    A 10 inch is a heavy unit
    a 12 is about max for a garage because you are probably looking at 3,000 to 4000 pounds.
    I have a 7 and would only go larger if I came accross a hydralic powered shaper (last ones made and very smooth)
    Another problem to be aware of, Shapers have GOOD vises !. but many shapers are stripped of their vises and that makes a "free" shaper worthless ...You will pay more for a vise that the whole shaper..
    Green Bay, WI

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    • #3
      here's one worth looking at: currently 400.00:

      http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...511808853&rd=1

      randy t

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      • #4
        I've been watching that one, but I don't go for the "prettied Up" machines. I think that the same machine was up for bid and didn't get ANY. Paint doesn't significantly change that for me. I need to find one in my area under some hay.
        Spence

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        • #5
          Not completely worthless, before vises, people used table strips, and various hold-downs, supports and bracing. Me too, until I bought another shaper to get the vise.

          At the moment thoug, it is off the table, and the work is held with clamps. That is the only way to get to the full capacity.

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          • #6
            Painted over old chipped paint looks worse in person than in pictures. 2000# sounds conservative for weight.
            I have seen many nicer than this go begging. If there are any older machine shops in your area, there are probably lots of good old machines lurking in the corners you can snag for under $100.00. Keep an eye on industrial auctions, and ask yourself if you really need one.
            Jim H.

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            • #7
              With shapers, it's not a matter if we need one. They are just really great toys in the shop if you have the room and can afford an extra toy. I ran a 24" Cincinnati that had been donated to the college by a local manufacturing plant that no longer had any use for it in their shop. I really enjoyed playing with it. So much so that I had to have one but since space was limited, I settled for a 7" Atlas, unfortuneatly before I was able to get it reassembled after taking it dowm to pretty it up, I was forced to relocate. It's still in packing boxes.

              Bernard

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              • #8
                Dear Bernard,
                It is painfully obvious that this shaper has caused you grevious harm' and provided you with no joy. Divest yourself of that damned burden now. I, in my most magnaminous gesture, will pay out of my own pocket (and maybe one or two others)for the shipping of this most damnible object to as far from you as Salt Lake City, Utah. You will never be harmed by the sight of it again. These boxes have burdened you enough. Be done with it, once and for all. I feel your pain.
                Spence

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                • #9
                  Spence, you ever sell used cars, or encyclopedias door-to-door? Ha! You're good!!

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                  • #10
                    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Al Messer:
                    Spence, you ever sell used cars, or encyclopedias door-to-door? Ha! You're good!!</font>
                    Not that good, he still doesn't have a shaper

                    .

                    Sir John , Earl of Bligeport & Sudspumpwater. MBE [ Motor Bike Engineer ] Nottingham England.



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                    • #11
                      good morning.

                      i would like to find a shaper too, but i am poor.

                      if anyone knows of a 'shaper deal' anywhere in or near east texas, i woul;d appreciate hearing about it. i would be willing to do a lot of work [retired] to make it right, but can't find one that is in my price range. maybe some of you 'multi-shaper folks' will take pity on me and offer me one cheap.

                      thanks.
                      bill
                      ........i dremel. therefore i am..........................

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                      • #12
                        Spence,

                        I truly appreciate the offer, however since I must have some masochistic predication I plan to keep the little critter as long as it takes to bring it back to life. Since I took a serious beating already from a less than scrupulous machinery dealer on the East coast I am into it a little deep.

                        Bernard

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                        • #13
                          Bill,
                          I've seen some of these machines go on Ebay for basically scrap value. The key I think, is to find one in your area. I recommend you use the "saved search" function on Ebay. It really is pretty cool. It can be set to send you an email when ever one appears on Ebay that fits your criteria, including price range and location. Then it's just a matter of sitting back and occasionally checking your traps. I have several set but haven't seen the machine for me yet. If an Atlas 7" wanders into my trap I'm gonna pounce on it.
                          Spence.

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                          • #14
                            Bill, Have you posted a message on the Yahoo!Shaper list? There's a guy named "Art" on it that seems to be able to find them pretty easily.

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                            • #15
                              I hope the guy that sold that one on eBay can afford some light bulbs now.
                              Jim H.

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