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    Are most countersinks, ie. normally encountered, eg. flathead screws in consumer items, 82 degrees? I bought a nice countersink some time ago thinking I needed a 60 deg CS, and it never seems to match what I need. I'm now trying to fit a big Porter Cable plunge router to one of those phenolic drop-in tops for a router table and those screws seem to be about 82 degs.
    Lynn (Huntsville, AL)

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    Nope. Lots of 'em are 90*. It varies a little among SAE, Metric, wood and so on. I have a chart somewhere, don't know exactly where though. If nobody else pulls a link outta their sleeve, I'll have to go find it for you.

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    • #3
      Thanks Dr Rob, but don't bother doing any research tho. T'was more just a matter of casual curiosity. I just bought an 82 deg one anyway.
      Lynn (Huntsville, AL)

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      • #4
        Lynn

        Almost all screws are 82*. For some reason door butt hinges have 90* countersinks and the screws never fit properly. All the metric countersunk hex screws I use are 82*.

        I use Severance 6 flute non-chattering countersinks, but the uniflute work well (and in wood), as do the Weldon type (a hole through the cutter)

        60* is normally a center lap. 100*, 90* countersinks are also sold, these are more for beveling holes than anything.

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        • #5
          Ahh, the things you learn here. On a #10 screw, it is a real bear trying to measure the head angle close enough to tell 82 from 90*. (only 4* diff on one side.) ; )

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          • #6
            By my experience (and a quick look at Machinery's Handbook) metric flat head machine screws and cap screws are 90*. Of course the vast majority of American screws are 82*. 100* heads are often used with sheet metal where you need a low profile. You can get 110* and 120* c-sinks also. What I wonder is, who came up with 82* rather than a nice "round" 90*, and why. There's probably a sensible reason, or rather a reason that was sensible 100 years ago

            Oh, yeah, I can usually judge a screw head's angle pretty readily by holding it at a 45* angle and sighting one flank against the top edge of, say, a door, line it up and see how the other flank lines up with the side of the door. Works for me, even with #4 screws.

            [This message has been edited by Randy (edited 03-15-2003).]

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            • #7
              Yeah, that was the burning question I forgot to ask, Why 82 degrees? Tho that may be one we'll never know.
              Lynn (Huntsville, AL)

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              • #8
                Our flat head machine screws where I work are 100deg c'sink, all flat head allen screws are 82deg c'sink. Very rarely do we ever use a 90 or a 60.

                Kevin
                If it's not good enough for you, it's sure not good enough for anyone else.

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                • #9
                  Lynn
                  I think it was a pissing contest and someone lost...

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