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    Guys:
    Christmas day my brother was over for dinner. We were browsing the Internet craftsmanship museum. I was looking at a miniature bicyle and asked what would be used for chain on somthing that small.The wheels were about the diameter of a quarter. He said fusee chain. I had never heard of it . It is somthing for clocks and watches. a google search revealed an article in the Horilogical Journal Nov 04 editon on how to make the stuff. it is a pdf file 5 pages.
    http://www.bhi.co.uk/hj/November%2004%20AoM.PDF
    So if anyone has the need or desire to make there own minature roller type chain you have the link.
    Regards
    Tin
    Ad maiorem dei gloriam - Ad vitam paramus

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    saved that one, in case my obsessive compulsive workshop sickness becomes more serious thank for the link
    .

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    • #3
      For a few years now Camden Books have been advertising a booklet "The Chain Makers" by White, 48 pages, published by Christchurch Local Historical Society - "The story of a lost industry that used women and children in Hampshire and Dorset making a tiny watch and clock component at the risk of their eyesight...." The component was the tiny fusee chain, and manufacture began in 1730 and went to end of 19th century. The industry was mostly home based, mostly women and children, especially children from Workhouses. The finest chains could be threaded through the eye of a needle. (Extracts from the Camden blurb)

      However...I have never bought this booklet, so can't vouch for its contents. It says there is a description of the chain making, but there is also a record of who the manufacturers were, which is maybe not so interesting.

      The Horilogical Journal looks interesting, but hardly the tiny chains that these workers of old were making, and I suspect their 'tooling' was slightly more primitive?
      Last edited by Peter S; 12-26-2006, 09:36 PM.

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      • #4
        another keeper,stock drive parts had reall small drive chain. can't find the bookmark for the site. Small parts might have something.http://www.smallparts.com/
        This site has some small drive stuff http://www.AllElectronics.com/
        Thanks Tin
        Glen
        Been there, probably broke it, doing that!
        I am not a lawyer, and never played one on TV!
        All the usual and standard disclaimers apply. Do not try this at home, use only as directed, No warranties express or implied, for the intended use or the suggested uses, Wear safety glasses, closed course, professionals only

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        • #5
          Fusee Chain

          Tin Falcon,

          Thanks for the link to that excellent article. Fusee chain was used in clocks and watches to transfer the power from the spring barrel to the fusee which provided the power to the clock mechanism. It was a constant torque mechanism designed to transfer the variable spring power to the clock drive as a constant torque. Used mainly in English clocks and watches from the late 1600's to the mid 1900's.

          Joe

          Last edited by Joe H; 12-27-2006, 11:07 AM.

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          • #6
            fusee chain

            revealed an article in the Horilogical Journal Nov 04 editon on how to make the stuff. it is a pdf file 5 pages.
            http://www.bhi.co.uk/hj/November%2004%20AoM.PDF
            So if anyone has the need or desire to make there own minature roller type chain you have the link.
            Regards
            Tin

            Hello Tin

            The link is not working anymore. Do you still have this PDF. Would be much appriciated if you could send me this. Regards. Patrick

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            • #7
              Originally posted by pmned View Post
              revealed an article in the Horilogical Journal Nov 04 editon on how to make the stuff. it is a pdf file 5 pages.
              http://www.bhi.co.uk/hj/November%2004%20AoM.PDF
              So if anyone has the need or desire to make there own minature roller type chain you have the link.
              Regards
              Tin

              Hello Tin

              The link is not working anymore. Do you still have this PDF. Would be much appriciated if you could send me this. Regards. Patrick
              Hi Patrick/ Tin - if you still have this pdf I would really like to get a copy.
              TIA
              Mike Chalifoux

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              • #8
                The fusee chain for timepieces is not intended to run over sprockets like roller chain.

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                • #9
                  yep - it goes from a tapered fitting to a barrel. I'm looking at some of the earlier mechanical singing bird boxes, and they used this to power the box. Later they went to a more conventional main spring. But the techniques of working with very small parts is very interesting to me.

                  mikech

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mikech View Post
                    Hi Patrick/ Tin - if you still have this pdf I would really like to get a copy.
                    TIA
                    Mike Chalifoux
                    here you go. Going to the next level is "making a fusee chain for a watch"....maybe that article will have your name on it?

                    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lvA...ew?usp=sharing
                    .

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                    • #11
                      I never thought there would be another thread on fusees. Here is the first one: http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/thr...ht=giant+fusee. The photograph is at reply #12. Artful Bodger solved he mystery of its function, in a wool press.
                      Allan Ostling

                      Phoenix, Arizona

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                      • #12
                        Interestingly enough, fusee drive can still be found in some modern (and ultra high end) wristwatches. The Breguet Tradition Fusee Tourbillon ( https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/ha...see-tourbillon ) and the Cabestan Winch Tourbillon Vertical ( https://watchismo.blogspot.com/2007/...tical-for.html ) come to mind.
                        Max
                        http://joyofprecision.com/

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Tin Falcon View Post
                          Guys:
                          Christmas day my brother was over for dinner. We were browsing the Internet craftsmanship museum. I was looking at a miniature bicyle and asked what would be used for chain on somthing that small.The wheels were about the diameter of a quarter. He said fusee chain. I had never heard of it . It is somthing for clocks and watches. a google search revealed an article in the Horilogical Journal Nov 04 editon on how to make the stuff. it is a pdf file 5 pages.
                          http://www.bhi.co.uk/hj/November%2004%20AoM.PDF
                          So if anyone has the need or desire to make there own minature roller type chain you have the link.
                          Regards
                          Tin
                          Rubber band

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                          • #14
                            Thanks so much ( I think) Mcgyver.
                            A lot to look at and think about. I think a watch chain can be about .01 thick - that is with 3 links!

                            Cheers
                            mike C

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                            • #15
                              the link worked for me.
                              “I know lots of people who are educated far beyond their intelligence”

                              Lewis Grizzard

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