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  • ligito
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    Tyler Tool Co. has some very good prices and there freight charge is excellent.

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  • Milacron of PM
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    Willy, please explain, as I haven't a clue how that relates.
    Last edited by Milacron of PM; 05-15-2007, 05:48 PM.

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  • Willy
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    Originally posted by D. Thomas
    Bob, if you've read any of TMT's ramblings on PM you'll know that TMT doesn't like anything, everything is bad, and basically the world is going to hell in a handbasket.

    He thinks this negative attitude makes him seem "savy" and "someone who has been around the block and knows the score" But then he almost never backs any of it up, so just looks like a fool.
    Kind of like the guy that responded to AlleyCat in this post on the PM site...Two hours ago he didn't even know what an IGBT was.
    http://www.practicalmachinist.com/ub...c/30/4731.html

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  • Milacron of PM
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    Originally posted by BobWarfield
    No kidding? Than what the heck are you spending so much time arguing about? LOL!

    TMT, you clearly don't like eBay, and just as clearly, some others have had great success with it. There's no harm in that, that's why they make chocolate and vanilla.

    I wish I had more time to debate this, but there are a number of bargains over on eBay waiting for me.

    Cheers,

    BW
    Bob, if you've read any of TMT's ramblings on PM you'll know that TMT doesn't like anything, everything is bad, and basically the world is going to hell in a handbasket.

    He thinks this negative attitude makes him seem "savy" and "someone who has been around the block and knows the score" But then he almost never backs any of it up, so just looks like a fool.

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  • peter08
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    tools for sale

    For some great tool deals check out datsstuff.com, I see some of our Slater Tools on there every once and a while.

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    That is why I like you Bob,a very "to the point" kind of guy.

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  • BobWarfield
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    Originally posted by Too_Many_Tools

    From your examples, I would say for the most part you use Ebay in the same way that I do. ;<)

    TMT
    No kidding? Than what the heck are you spending so much time arguing about? LOL!

    TMT, you clearly don't like eBay, and just as clearly, some others have had great success with it. There's no harm in that, that's why they make chocolate and vanilla.

    I wish I had more time to debate this, but there are a number of bargains over on eBay waiting for me.

    Cheers,

    BW

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  • micrometer50
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    The thing with E-bay is like with auctions and garage sales, I go to alot where I don't get much but every once in a while there are bargans that make the time worthwile.

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    Originally posted by BobWarfield
    In a word, no. I'm not going to spend a bunch of my time to "prove" to you what I am saying. You can take my word or others for it, or not, that's your choice.

    You are welcome to take a look at the most recent eBay item #'s I have won:

    220084498619: Set of 1200lb capacity casters I will use to build a machinery dolly. $62 for 4. Someone in another thread on these boards said that would cost me $200-400 to buy new. Take a look at McMaster-Carr and see what they cost--it's that much per caster. I looked there before heading to eBay.

    290087017910: Brand new NMTB 30 drill chuck arbor by SPI for $44.99. They're over $100 new for anything but cheap Asian knock offs.

    230085973272: 600 AC power cord strain reliefs for $1.99. I have no idea what they cost elsewhere, but it ain't $1.99.

    150091541982: CNC Machinable Wax. $15.50 for 3 pieces. Enco lists the same brand wax, same size, for $18 each, over 3x this cost.

    330088868640: Lot of 10lbs of 6061 aluminum for $15.50. Most places want $2 a pound. A lot of eBay sellers are shops selling off their end pieces. I don't happen to have a local shop pushing those my way, so this happens to be convenient.

    280075137579: 5" precision sine bar, Taiwan, not China, $10.50 on eBay, $60 from Enco.

    The list goes on. eBay is not the only place I buy, but I have saved a ton by shopping there. This stuff is not screwdrivers, but it ain't exactly electron microscopes either, and it didn't take me 2 hours to find each one. I won all 5 of these right off the bat at prices I considered a significant enough discount to be worthwile.

    eBay is not for everyone. If you don't care for it, that's great. The fewer bidders, the better the prices!

    Best,

    BW
    "In a word, no. I'm not going to spend a bunch of my time to "prove" to you what I am saying. You can take my word or others for it, or not, that's your choice."

    Like I said...time is money.

    From your examples, I would say for the most part you use Ebay in the same way that I do. ;<)

    TMT

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    Originally posted by JCHannum
    Most of the suggestions for using eBay are good, but I have to differ on avoiding using the Buy It Now feature. If the price is good and the item is what you are looking for, go ahead and buy it. You will probably get it in a short time, and won't have to wait a weeek only to be outbid.

    I offer Buy It Now on occasion, and as often as not, once bidding starts, the final price is more than the original Buy It Now price.

    I have used the "Buy It Now" maybe a half a dozen times because it was an item that I needed soon.

    And each time I paid a premium for the priviledge.

    And of course this is what Ebay and its sellers had intended.

    Like deserts, one once in awhile is okay....using it every time is harmful to your wallet.

    TMT

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  • JCHannum
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    Most of the suggestions for using eBay are good, but I have to differ on avoiding using the Buy It Now feature. If the price is good and the item is what you are looking for, go ahead and buy it. You will probably get it in a short time, and won't have to wait a weeek only to be outbid.

    I offer Buy It Now on occasion, and as often as not, once bidding starts, the final price is more than the original Buy It Now price.

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    Originally posted by dan s
    I can add a little bit to Bob’s comments. When surfing eBay I have found the following helpful.

    1. Avoid buy it now auctions unless it’s something you really need. They usually don’t offer much savings.
    2. beware of used precision items, especially name brand items
    3. cross check all prices against reputable retailers (msc, enco, travers, online metals, etc)


    This is not an endorsement, but prices this item new, and you not going to get it delivered to your door for twice this price. Item number: 180090651553
    I agree with all your comments.

    I will add that I have been told by several calibiration companies that calibirate tools for other companies that all tools that do not meet calibiration are sold on Ebay. I also know of several QA departments that sell their out of cal measuring tools on Ebay. When I questioned the ethics of knowingly selling defective measurement tools (of course without admitting it to the buyer), I was told that it is the buyer's responsibility to detect the problem. So the bottom line is if you are having problems with parts fitting even though they measure correctly on that great Ebay micrometer you bought for a song, it just might not be the parts that are the problem.

    TMT

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    Originally posted by Joel
    Where eBay really shines for me is when I need something uncommon. I had to have an accurate 150 GPM flowmeter for the business. The cost of a new unit was frightening, then I remembered to check eBay - I lucked out and found a really nice NOS electronic meter and ended up buying it for something like 1 cent on the dollar. A few days later I had a much better meter than I otherwise could have afforded, for a lot less money than a cheap one would have cost.

    This approach is similar to how I have used Ebay successfully.

    The biggest problem with Ebay is that most people use it for their one stop shopping which is exactly what Ebay wants you to do.

    That approach will cost you more.

    TMT

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  • dan s
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    I can add a little bit to Bob’s comments. When surfing eBay I have found the following helpful.

    1. Avoid buy it now auctions unless it’s something you really need. They usually don’t offer much savings.
    2. beware of used precision items, especially name brand items
    3. cross check all prices against reputable retailers (msc, enco, travers, online metals, etc)


    This is not an endorsement, but prices this item new, and you not going to get it delivered to your door for twice this price. Item number: 180090651553

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  • BobWarfield
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    Originally posted by Too_Many_Tools
    Since several of you have mentioned that Ebay is a hotbed of screaming bargains, could you (and anyone else who want to play "Where's The Bargain?") post the links to both the recent great prices in Ebay's completed auctions and their counterparts from major retail sellers? Since the Ebay completed auctions cover the past month, I would consider it to be an easy effort if the bargains really exist.
    In a word, no. I'm not going to spend a bunch of my time to "prove" to you what I am saying. You can take my word or others for it, or not, that's your choice.

    You are welcome to take a look at the most recent eBay item #'s I have won:

    220084498619: Set of 1200lb capacity casters I will use to build a machinery dolly. $62 for 4. Someone in another thread on these boards said that would cost me $200-400 to buy new. Take a look at McMaster-Carr and see what they cost--it's that much per caster. I looked there before heading to eBay.

    290087017910: Brand new NMTB 30 drill chuck arbor by SPI for $44.99. They're over $100 new for anything but cheap Asian knock offs.

    230085973272: 600 AC power cord strain reliefs for $1.99. I have no idea what they cost elsewhere, but it ain't $1.99.

    150091541982: CNC Machinable Wax. $15.50 for 3 pieces. Enco lists the same brand wax, same size, for $18 each, over 3x this cost.

    330088868640: Lot of 10lbs of 6061 aluminum for $15.50. Most places want $2 a pound. A lot of eBay sellers are shops selling off their end pieces. I don't happen to have a local shop pushing those my way, so this happens to be convenient.

    280075137579: 5" precision sine bar, Taiwan, not China, $10.50 on eBay, $60 from Enco.

    The list goes on. eBay is not the only place I buy, but I have saved a ton by shopping there. This stuff is not screwdrivers, but it ain't exactly electron microscopes either, and it didn't take me 2 hours to find each one. I won all 5 of these right off the bat at prices I considered a significant enough discount to be worthwile.

    eBay is not for everyone. If you don't care for it, that's great. The fewer bidders, the better the prices!

    Best,

    BW

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