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  • oldtiffie
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    Quite so

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  • Norman Atkinson
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    Wandering, drunken threads etc etc????

    Despite all other thoughts, I have actually written part of the history of Hendon, RAF Hendon and my own RAF 31 Squadron. There is more to write, believe me. This thread is building up a picture by filling in some of the 'dots' which exist. Part of the story is still under wraps of secrecy and i can assure readers that it was only in the past few months that some bits were released.

    History- and I hope that my contribution is relevant- is for the the future generations to know and I hope- enjoy. History is actually a precis and it does get boring if the spicy bits are missed out!

    Thank you for your help and tolerance

    Norm

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  • TECHSHOP
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    aviemoron & oldtiffie

    My post wasn't a sly swipe at wandering threads, OT threads, or even the occasional drunken thread. Sometimes an (the?) answer to a long ago question is found in the unexpected place.

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  • Norman Atkinson
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    Franco,
    Got them-finally

    OO-TIP was/is a Tipsy S2
    OO-TIT was/is a Fairey Junior

    I once made a rude remark about Pelmanism.
    Now feel better- I thought that I was having a funny one

    My thanks- phew- wipes sweat from worried brow!

    Norm

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  • franco
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    Originally posted by aviemoron
    Franco,

    Am I going nuts?

    Does the registration OH-TIP or OH-TIT mean anything?
    It is going through my brain

    Norm
    Norm,

    Probably not Nippers. A quick look through the Nipper bible doesn't show either of those registrations, but it was printed in 1996. A lot of the 130 odd aircraft have had several registrations, often in different countries, so it is possible that the registrations you quote may have been allotted after the book was printed.

    Most of the original Fairey built ones were initially registered with OO (Belgium) or OY (Denmark) prefixes and three letter suffixes. No OH prefixes appear in the list in the book. Most of the later English built ones had an initial G registration with a four letter suffix. The suffixes TIP and TIT don't appear anywhere in the list either, so, sorry, I can't help you.

    Regards,

    franco.
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  • oldtiffie
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    Norm and others - try this as well

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  • Norman Atkinson
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    Much obliged, old son but this is weird.
    This was 1937-ish and it was an Air Display photo.
    Again, it was old HMS Manchester out at sea going her big gun practice out of the mouth of the River Tyne. She figured in the sinking of the Bismark.
    The Stringbags mistook her and happily, the wrong triggers were fitted to the tinfish. I've got it right. Done the classic association of ideas in Pelmanism thing!

    But here comes the weird bit. I saw the whole scenario again. The date was 21st April 1949- and I stood and watched the almost same oily flames, at the same hangar, at the Grahame White hangar which was A Flight's RAF 31 Squadron. OK, Tiffie old lad, it isn't BS. You see, I was the second Norman of RAF 31 Squadron- the first one died in India and I took his name. I am a member of the squadron- and always will be. The pilot, my Co at my training camp prior to Hendon and the dead pilot and my Cousin- all went to school together. This was what pi$$ed me off with this Churchill thing. Doug, my cousin was Churchill's-- well he was at Yalta. He was then- my days at Hendon, a Wing Commander RAF and a Major in the Royal Corps of Signals.
    I was somewhere in 'nepotism' or something worse.

    In the background, I have been writing to -- someone. I helped kit out an Antarctic RAF expedition. It was supposed to be a new thing. Then recently it was found- or so it seems- to Nazis in Antarctica- and a Murder of 'Icemen'.
    It was supposed to be with a Norwegian. t that time the numbers of Norwegians capabable of something like this could be numbered on one finger.
    I trained with him after my time with the RAF.

    Stone cold sober- and I wish that I wasn't

    Norm

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  • oldtiffie
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    hendon

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  • Norman Atkinson
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    Franco,

    Am I going nuts?

    Does the registration OH-TIP or OH-TIT mean anything?
    It is going through my brain

    Norm

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  • Norman Atkinson
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    In another of my World's, I am going to see a bloke who had Faireys.
    This time, Fairey made sailing dinghies and the bloke has a couple. well, in keeping- he is an engineer and a model one- and he has a workshop in the house with flock wallpaper. There is hope for all mankind- but I ask you?

    So here is a question. I am corresponding with a certain gentleman about my time in the RAF and a crash was involved. We had our share-Old Tiffie- and it still hurts!
    We mentioned RAF Hendon. In the 1930's there were Air Pageants or Displays attracting thousands of visitors. I was too poor and too young to go to such a thing but I recall a photograph of a flight of Hawker Hinds or Harts- or one of the variants. Techshop, it was probably 1937 and that would make it 70 years ago and I was 7! The photograph was called 'the Bombing of Port Hendon' and a hangar had been hit with bombs. Of course, it was a set up.
    Now, I haven't gone off track because the hangar was-- the Grahame White Company hangar. Does anyone have this photo or perhaps the cine film?
    Please don't suggest the RAF Museum- I know probably more than they do.

    Going off at a very different tangent- does anyone have photos of the Joint British Scandinavian Expedition to Antarctica in 1949? The clue is Austers with skis or floats.

    I will not be on line for perhaps a month so perhaps my E-Mail add would help

    It's [email protected]

    My thanks

    Norm

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  • TECHSHOP
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    Thanks, aviemoron & oldtiffie

    A while back, I asked a question here, and never did get a "proper" answer, but now I think the answer is:

    70

    I say no more.

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  • oldtiffie
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    Dead right

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  • oldtiffie
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    I was lazy and incorrect

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  • franco
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    tiffie,

    Fairey built the Gannets. I remember this because I owned another very different aircraft built by Fairey at one stage - a Tipsy Nipper - one seat, 45 HP and 660 pounds all up weight. Also saw the remains of a Gannet at Bankstown airfield which had been convincingly written off in the late fifties or early sixties if I remember correctly - not a pretty sight.

    franco
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  • J Tiers
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    Originally posted by oldtiffie
    the other was the "Sea Fury" which was the marine version of the "Mustang" (or was it the "Hurricane" I can't remember - not sure), both of which as you say served in Korea.
    Hawker Sea Fury wouldn't have been a variant of either as it has a large radial engine. Had at one time the speed record for propeller driven aircraft, IIRC.

    it did replace the "Seafire" naval Spitfire version, which was not a successful aircraft for carrier use, so there is a connection there.

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