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  • #16
    Wolfie I don't understand what the guy means by free then money is mentioned.Alistair
    Please excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease


    • #17
      In reference to post #4 , and the auction. I think he is either telling us what it is worth(in his opinion) or, Telling us we have to pay for those items over the High bidder price.


      • #18
        A couple of times I've bid on Rambold Turret Lathes that came up on Ebay. Finally settled on an Elgin split bed. It takes the same tooling as the old Hardinge and this looked to have the same bed design as those two. Same as the old Rivett's too. Somebody over on the PM site just bought an old Rambold. Wish I could of got one when I tried.
        Forty plus years and I still have ten toes, ten fingers and both eyes. I must be doing something right.


        • #19
          Originally posted by John Stevenson
          Sounds about right for a wooden cue, we used to run some copy lathes that could go to 7,500.

          Not certain how this one operates but remember that most wood copy lathes have their tooling mounted behind a cathead type steady to support the work and prevent whipping.

          Ever seen those very long slender Victorian stair spindle?, not the modern chunky ones done on modern copy lathes and wondered how they were done ?

          Well when I wanted some new spindles to replace the old damaged ones in this house that have been paneled in for 50 years I asked the wood turning shop I was manager of to make me some new ones, after all if they could make baseball bats to sell on the local markets whilst I wasn't supposed to be looking then surly they could make me 7 spindles to pattern.?

          No apparently not, every time they tried to run these they would get spat out the machine as they were too thin for the length.
          Making inquiries I found out that the old lathes use the tailstock to pull not push so the wood was in tension and not compression.

          So two pieces of angle iron with nails drill thru were hammered onto the new spindles and secured with hose clips. Each end was jury rigged to the headstock and tailstock and away they went and we got 10 new spindles to refurbish out staircase originally built in 1901.

          John,one of my ancestors patented in 1896 and built machines just for doing that.Diffrence was not only did they pull tension on the spindles,they also powered the tailstock and headstock from a common shaft which greatly reduced torsional vibration in the wood.
          I just need one more tool,just one!


          • #20
            Spin Doctor,

            That was Frank Ford. He posted it here as well. Something I thought about after responding to his post on PM and applies to this lathe as well, is if all split bed compounds/crossslides from different makers are interchangeable? My Elgin compound is set-up for the "guides" that mate with the bed to be adjustable for different positions which makes them adjustable for different widths. If the beds are the same angle and the compound doesn't bottom out, I would think they would work and only requiring making tool holders or some shimming to put the tool on center.
            For that matter, some shop made guides would overcome any differences in angle and depth.

            As far as the original post, if you have the space these 2nd OP lathes are nice to have around even if all you use it for is drilling and parting off.
            Jon Bohlander
            My PM Blog


            • #21
              It's worth it just to rob the turret off it to fit onto a centre lathe for repetition work.

              A while ago I bought an Enco turret off Ebay that came off a 13" Harrison lathe for £50.00 hoping this would fit my medium sized TOS at 14 x 40

              When dropped on the bed it was 1/4" too low and 3/16" off centre,
              No worry I just bent all the drills to fit

              No seriously I turned the turret down until all the holes had disappeared and pressed a top hatted sleeve over it then re-drilled and reamed from the headstock so I know it's bang on.

              Today I lifted it back on and set it up to do drawbars for Bridgeports, step speed and vari speed. These are three part items, the top is 3/4" A/F hex, threaded and then hardened and blacked.
              The spindle is high tensile steel in tough condition threaded both ends and there is also a spacer.

              These are double life units in that the spacer is extra long and the bottom thread is twice the length with a machined groove at half way.
              When the thread wears out you cut the bottom bit off and cut the spacer down to the witness mark and then you have a second life.

              Started at 10 this morning and finished all ready to go to heat treat on Monday at 6 tonight and that's 30 spindles threaded both ends, 18 short step nuts, only 6 long vari-speed nuts [ run out of material ] and 30 spacers.

              So say 6-1/2 hours taking dinner and breaks out to do nearly 30 drawbars.
              Without that turret there is no way I could have done that just on the manual lathe.

              Last edited by John Stevenson; 11-24-2007, 07:41 PM.

              Sir John , Earl of Bligeport & Sudspumpwater. MBE [ Motor Bike Engineer ] Nottingham England.


              • #22
                Well I "think" I own this now. The guy had no bids on this or his old Wells bandsaw so I made him a "Buy it now" offer on both that he went for. Still haven't heard back from him. I'm looking forward to fooling with this little machine.
                And I will be buggin you turret guys for info on tooling, setups etc.
                I have tools I don't even know I own...


                • #23
                  Originally posted by moldmonkey
                  As far as the original post, if you have the space these 2nd OP lathes are nice to have around even if all you use it for is drilling and parting off.
                  Quite right, especially with the turret and not the tailstock. Originally I got mine to make pre-blanked valves for scale IC engines. Never did get going on that, too many projects around the house.
                  Forty plus years and I still have ten toes, ten fingers and both eyes. I must be doing something right.


                  • #24
                    Cam, I'll have to pass on the coffee for! I'm getting the machines shipped to me.
                    Moldmonkey...exactly what I was thinking. I'd like to have it setup for parting, drilling and perhaps chamfering. That'd save a whole bunch of fooling around with my bigger lathe.
                    I just emailed the pics to Tony at UK lathes to see if he recognises this machine. I see he has some info on German made lathes there already.
                    I have tools I don't even know I own...