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  • Along with "Lest we forget"...

    I don't usually pay much attention to the flotsam coming into my email at work but this caught me just right the other day.
    It may have been around before but certainly worth a second read.
    Your indulgence;

    YOU COULD HEAR A PIN DROP

    When in England at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by
    the Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example
    of empire building' by George Bush.

    He answered by saying, 'Over the years, the United States has sent many
    of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom
    beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in
    return is enough to bury those that did not return.

    You could have heard a pin drop.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Then there was a conference in France where a number of international
    engineers were taking part, including French and American. During a
    break one of the French engineers came back into the room saying 'Have
    you heard the latest dumb stunt Bush has done? He has sent an aircraft
    carrier to Indonesia to help the tsunami victims. What does he intended
    to do, bomb them?'

    A Boeing engineer stood up and replied quietly: ' Our
    carriers have three hospitals on board that can treat several hundred
    people; they are nuclear powered and can supply emergency electrical
    power to shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity
    to feed 3,000 people three meals a day, they can produce several
    thousand gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry
    half a dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to
    and from their flight deck.. We have eleven such ships; how many does
    France have?'

    You could have heard a pin drop.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    A U.S. Navy Admiral was attending a naval conference that included
    Admirals from the U.S. , English, Canadian, Australian and French
    Navies. At a cocktail reception, he found himself standing with a large
    group of Officers that included personnel from most of those countries.
    Everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks but a
    French admiral suddenly complained that, 'whereas Europeans learn many
    languages, Americans learn only English.' He then asked, 'Why is it that
    we always have to speak English in these conferences rather than
    speaking French?' Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied
    'Maybe it's because the Brits, Canadians, Aussies and Americans arranged
    it so you wouldn't have to speak German.'

    You could have heard a pin drop.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    AND THIS STORY FITS RIGHT IN WITH THE ABOVE...
    A group of Americans, retired teachers, recently went to France on a
    tour.

    Robert Whiting, an elderly gentleman of 83, arrived in Paris by plane.
    At French Customs, he took a few minutes to locate his passport in his
    carry on. 'You have been to France before, monsieur?' the customs
    officer asked sarcastically. Mr. Whiting admitted that he had been to
    France previously. 'Then you should know enough to have your passport
    ready.' The American said, 'The last time I was here, I didn't have to
    show it.' 'Impossible. Americans always have to show your passports on
    arrival in France !' The American senior gave the Frenchman a long hard
    look. Then he quietly explained. 'Well, when I came ashore at Omaha
    Beach on D-Day in '44 to help liberate this country, I couldn't find any
    Frenchmen to show it to.'

    You could have heard a pin drop.

    __________________________________________________ _______
    What Is A Veteran?
    A 'Veteran' -- whether active duty, discharged, retired, or reserve --
    is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made
    payable to 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and
    including his life.'
    That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country today,
    who no longer understand that fact.
    Len

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    Heavy Duty...

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    • #3
      Whoever writes this sort of stuff has their tougue very firmly in cheek. You would have to be incredibly patriotically blinkered to believe all the above of course.
      Liberally cut and pasted from Snopes in response to the above:

      On Colin Powell
      - First of all, the dead are typically shipped back to the U.S. for burial. Second of all, if Powell did say this, he was wrong. The U.S. has gained territory through war. In the Spanish-American War, for example, the U.S. gained Puerto Rico, Guam, and various islands in the Philippines.
      (The original quote abut empire building from the Archbishop is quite untrue of course, and the quoted reply is just one line of the speech from Colin Powell. Full version here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/powell.asp)

      On the Tsunami
      -France had an Aircraft carrier in the Carriabean after Katrina. The French volunteered to sail into New Orleans to provide relief using the hospitals, water production, etc. The US refused the help.

      On the English Language
      -"And they also arranged it so that the native peoples of Canada, Australia and America would have to speak English. It was 60 years ago, get over it" The French admiral replied"

      On the Tourist in France
      -It just looks to me like an example of the French bashing that became so en vogue after France voted against invading Iraq. It still amazes me how you can get a huge part of a population to hate another group just by telling them to do so. And within that "French boycott" thing that followed with the rejection of all things French, why didn't they send back the Statue of Liberty?

      I think the original author of the email quotes must have been moonlighting from his day job as a copywriter for the greeting card industry

      Peter

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      • #4
        lmao "you could have heard a pin drop"

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        • #5
          Originally posted by QSIMDO
          .
          What Is A Veteran?
          A 'Veteran' -- whether active duty, discharged, retired, or reserve --
          is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made
          payable to 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and
          including his life.'
          ..
          The rest of your post was entertaining, but the above quote struck home for me and gave me a new perspective on my service. I just thought I was doing what was right.

          Reflecting on my Viet Nam service, that war was won in '73 when I left and only about 2000 troops left on the ground, but in '75, when the North invaded again our Government stood by and did NOT A DAMN THING, and let it happen. Well placed air strikes at the DMZ from even one carrier could have halted the concentrated column advancing from the north.

          We got the pictures of the retreat from the embassy roof as history, and nobody remembers how our government betrayed those who were our friends.
          Weston Bye - Author, The Mechatronist column, Digital Machinist magazine
          ~Practitioner of the Electromechanical Arts~

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Peter Neill

            On the Tourist in France
            -It just looks to me like an example of the French bashing that became so en vogue after France voted against invading Iraq. It still amazes me how you can get a huge part of a population to hate another group just by telling them to do so.
            I was taught this by the French during an extended business trip in 1984. Each day I was there seemed to bring a new insult from them, and I was there to help them make their damn airplanes better. I learned that even the most boorish of them will finally serve you a meal if you are prepared to sit quietly for a couple hours. I still avoid French products but it has nothing to do with any popular movement or need to bash the French - I do it because I was treated badly because I was not French, or perhaps because I am an American.

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            • #7
              French/American

              There are A**holes in both countrys as anywhere else in the world. The trick is to ignore them and not become one. For every rude frenchman there are several who helped save our airborn troops following D day, and many more who visit memorials every year to honor our men who died there.
              There are many families in the US that would not exist today if it weren't for the French families who hid cut off American troops from the German army, till they could rejoin our forces, many of whom were executed by the nazis for their trouble.
              I have enough on my plate just dealing with people who are rude to me in person, without getting upset over people I don't know.
              lwbates

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              • #8
                Originally posted by lwbates
                There are A**holes in both countrys as anywhere else in the world. The trick is to ignore them and not become one.
                Exactly. And that is what I've done. It was an unfortunate experience and not of my doing, and what do you know, it left a lasting impression. I've since learned it was not a particularly unusual experience. It was obviously a local problem and never repeated outside of France, and perhaps they have grown in the last 25 years for the better. I haven't been back and haven't had any interest in doing so.

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