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  • Elliott 10m Shaper dismantling info

    I have acquired an Elliott 10M and now need to fetch.




    Its going in a small commercial car based van (Escort, Kangoo) . I will probably need to dismantle it to get in the Van.

    Any one taken one of these apart?

    Any clues as to weight of the largest parts?
    What tools needed to dismantle it?
    How big a job is it.?
    Any pictures?

  • #2
    Originally posted by derekm
    I have acquired an Elliott 10M and now need to fetch.
    It should fit complete into an Escort van. Just lie it on its side (opposite side to that shown in picture). If you procure a piece of good plywood that fits the bed of the van, you can lean that half-in, half-out of the van, lie the shaper over onto it so the lip of the tray is past the pivot point, stand it up and then winch the whole caboodle in with a ratchet strap.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by djc
      It should fit complete into an Escort van. Just lie it on its side (opposite side to that shown in picture). If you procure a piece of good plywood that fits the bed of the van, you can lean that half-in, half-out of the van, lie the shaper over onto it so the lip of the tray is past the pivot point, stand it up and then winch the whole caboodle in with a ratchet strap.
      DJC Thanks very much - the present owner said it might so its good to find another agreeing.

      How about a plan B (I always love to have at least a Plan B) - This is going into a Renault Kangoo. What if for some reason I have to dismantle? How can I do it?

      Derek

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      • #4
        Hi Dereck.
        I imagine that the unit unbolts from the base from within the base. Such as my "Viceroy Royale 250" does.
        I can send you the 10m manual pdf if you wish. pm sent..
        Last edited by speedy; 10-05-2008, 07:12 PM.
        Ken.

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        • #5
          Take a look on the New England Model Engineering Society Shaper page

          http://neme-s.org/Shaper%20Books/shaper_book_page.htm

          You will find the Elliot 10M manual as well as a ton of other useful information.
          Errol Groff

          New England Model Engineering Society
          http://neme-s.org/

          YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/GroffErrol?feature=mhee

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          • #6
            i have had an elliott 10 m apart and an Alba as well.
            think they are about 800 pounds

            you can take the ram off , then detach the base - base is welded steel
            and not too heavy-
            of course this still leaves you with a fairly heavy and unweildy
            chunk of the main body.

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            • #7
              Thanks, I'll let you know how it goes

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              • #8
                close

                From a drawing in the manual
                If I take the ram off I have a 2" headroom clearance

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                • #9
                  might be very tippy so if you can, bolt some angle to the base , to increaser the footprint and make things safer

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                  • #10
                    If the table is the same as the Alba 1S (IIRC it is or at least very similar) then its 3 bolts to undo it and take it off. getting the ram off (From memory again) is a simple as undoing the nut in the middle of the top, which attaches to the crank mech and then allowing this to drop down and sliding off the (awkward, oily) ram.

                    The Alba splits from its base with about 6 bolts, if you are going to do this leave the ram in place and use it as the sling point, it is after all designed to resist lifting forces Thats what Id do, as the lumps (table, shaper mechanics, base) are easier to manhandle.

                    An engine crane or similar makes this job dead easy, but dont get complacent, it will still crush you if you are in the wrong place.

                    Dave
                    Just south of Sudspumpwater UK

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                    • #11
                      thanks again Here is the photo upon which I based buying decision on



                      any comments?

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                      • #12
                        We got it in

                        Here it is in our kangoo van



                        we got it in by taking the ram off and then got it out.. The sellers were very interesting their hobby is - Jet engine powered tractors- Helicopter gas turbined powered pulling tractors.. Wow... back to the shaper the sellers used a sort of forl lift to lift shaper upto the level of the van deck and then slid it in. Getting out was more fun.

                        We built a platform out of concrete blocks with a wooden top. We then slid the shaper out on a slider of sheet metal using a hydraulic jack to push it out gently and then lowered the shaper bit by bit replacing the blocks with smaller blocks until it was the height of the pallet truck using a mixture of car lift jacks and hydraulic jacks.

                        More pictures to follow.

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