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    Over on the 4x6 band saw forum a guy has picked up a Rong Fu model of one and was asking about it and where it was made...

    Kinda got me curious, what is the story on them? I'm only familiar with seeing the mill-drills, and the increasingly popular dove tail bench mills offered by ENCO in the brand.

    They are made in Taiwan, right? Is that the reason for the increased cost? Did, or do they still, offer other tools such as the band saw? Is there really as much difference in them as opposed, say, to an ENCO branded mill, to justify the additional cost?

    What about ENCO's "Turn-Pro" brand? is that a similar thing, with them made in Taiwan?

    Inquiring minds wanna know??
    If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something........

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    Rong Fu Tools

    from a google:

    History
    Taiwan Rong Fu was founded in 1975 with a workforce of ten people turning out vises. By 1979 we were also producing 4-1/2" metal cutting band saw and milling/drilling machines for the domestic and overseas markets. Taiwan Rung Fu was rated number one in Taiwan in the export of band saws and milling and drilling machine tools.
    In 1984 we cooperated with two large US makers to develop 7"x12" and 8"x14" bench-model metal cutting band saws. Over the next decade we achieved an enviable record of other firsts and breakthroughs. In the same year we initiated implementation of a fully-computerized production management system.
    By 1985 we had completely overhauled and upgraded our production facilities and received listing by UL of the United States for our products. In 1989 our computerized management system was extended to include all operations, and the following year we began preparation for ISO 9000 with training of all employees. We also invested in new production equipment for air tools.
    In 1992 we began working with the Industrial Research Technology Institute to improve our manufacturing processes. Our certification for ISO 9002 was received in 1993, and over the next several years we concentrated on expanding production and gaining CE approval for all of our products and CSA and UL listing for a number of products.

    In 1999 Taiwan Rong Fu successfully introduced our bandsaw products to the European market. During the same year we began OEM production of saws in cooperation with Thomas of Italy, and we were certified for ISO 9001 in the year 2000.
    We now sell to more than 80 countries around the world through importers and agents. In the future our strategy will be to rely on our core technology as a base and continue to design and develop our successful line of domestically-developed digital automatic control machine tools and machining centers.

    For 25 years Taiwan Rong Fu has applied creativity and outstanding know-how to develop products that are high in quality and reasonably priced. We work to ensure that our customers will be able to enjoy great profitability with our products so that we can continue growing together in the future.

    Hope this helps some

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bill Pace
      Over on the 4x6 band saw forum a guy has picked up a Rong Fu model of one and was asking about it and where it was made...

      Kinda got me curious, what is the story on them? I'm only familiar with seeing the mill-drills, and the increasingly popular dove tail bench mills offered by ENCO in the brand.

      They are made in Taiwan, right? Is that the reason for the increased cost?
      If you ever get a chance to see a real Rong Fu brand Mill/Drill, you'll understand why they're so expensive: they have heavier castings (a lot more ribbing), and the fit and finish is much nicer than the Chinese Mill/Drills, or even the Taiwanese Rong Fu clones made by Jet, Shop Fox, et al.

      The problem with Rong Fu is their price-point. A "real" Rong Fu RF-30 round-column or an RF-45 dovetail Mill/Drill runs around $3,000, and that puts you deep into used Bridgeport territory.
      "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did."

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      • #4
        Are all Rong Fu machines made in Taiwan? My Grizzly drill press is a Rong Fu. I've been under the impression that it was made in mainland China.
        Cheers,

        Frank Ford
        HomeShopTech

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        • #5
          I would guess that Rong Fu has plants in mainland China.
          Most of the Tawianese companies do.
          In addition, they buy parts, and castings from the mainland.
          So the finished tools can be hard to pin down in terms of country of origin.

          Rong Fu definitely does contract manufacturing for others- there have been Jet machines that are Rong Fu, and many Grizzly tools are Rong Fu.
          On their website, they say "distributors wanted", and I would bet that if you order a container full, they will put whatever name you want on em.

          For instance, if you compare the Grizzly Ironworkers
          http://www.grizzly.com/products/50-Ton-Ironworker/G0646

          With the Rong Fu Ironworker-
          http://www.rongfu.com/app?page=en_pr...external&sp=92

          There is an amazing family resemblance.

          Generally speaking, the factories in both Taiwan and mainland China will build to any quality level you specify- so if Jet wants their name cast in the saw bow, and higher quality fasteners, bearings, and motors, as long as they pay, Rong Fu will make em that way.
          So just saying a mill drill or a bandsaw is Rong Fu might mean a minimum quality level, but there still can be wide variations in the quality of similar looking products.

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          • #6
            A very good read indeed!!

            Many many thanks [email protected] for a first-class informative unbiased read at:
            http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/sho...36&postcount=2

            I thoroughly enjoyed it.

            This is a similar post as well as it has been entered into and addressed with good questions, answers and comment.

            I wish there were more here like it.

            I am quite "at ease" with any manufacturer "contracting out" parts to other parties as the prime manufacture is responsible for quality of all content irrespective of what (sub?) manufacturer makes any part of it or what country or zone they are from. I am only concerned with the finished product and warranty and support and service provided for the machine/s.

            I have a "no-name" "Chinese" 3-in-1 as well as a HF-45 square column mill and a "Seig"X3 mill and surface and T&C grinders as well as numerous tools etc. from "China". Many of the tools are "Vertex" which as I understand it, make little or nothing but "buys in" at the standards required.

            I buy all my stuff and pay a premium for my supplier to "filter" the "good" stuff as it in his best interests as well as mine that the tools, although expensive, "do the job" and are good value for money.

            "(Sub-)Contracting out" (aka "farming out") is not new as the automotive industry in particular had been doing it in vast amounts fore many years. It makes an awful lot of good commercial sense. Builders have been doing it for-ever.

            All things being equal, price (and experience) is a good indicator of quality assuming parity of international costs and currencies (which never happens and so "skews" the results).

            I have absolutely no problems with most made in USA stuff except for the costs. There have been exceptions.

            I don't doubt, that as said by others here, that all or many or most countries can manufacture to very high standards but the final cost is very much in the mind of the buyer.

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