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  • Anyone ID this British upright mill?

    I just won this milling machine on ebay. It's listed as a 'Alfred Herbert' machine, but I can't find any reference to any mill made by them, it seems that they were once big-time machine vendorsbut possibly of re-badged machines from companies they bought out. Looks like there's still an 'Alfred Herbert Ltd' still going who renovate machines up Coventry way so it could be them I guess.

    Any clues? Pics aren't too great it'll be a few days before I pick it up I guess. Machine is about 1/2 ton in weight I'm told.



    Last edited by Peter.; 01-13-2009, 07:41 PM.
    Peter - novice home machinist, modern motorcycle enthusiast.

    Denford Viceroy 280 Synchro (11 x 24)
    Herbert 0V adapted to R8 by 'Sir John'.
    Monarch 10EE 1942

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    From here I'd say Herbert 0V or 1V ?? and getting long in the tooth, IIRC pre 39-45 war design though none the worse for that if not kicked to death.
    Might have the old 1 3/8" herbert taper, like Int 30 but bigger very hard to find, think sometimes called the Herbert non stick.... there's another recent post on 0V etc on this board.

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    • #3
      Thanks Sami - I'll do a search. It comes with collets & a drawbar, but that's it. Can't tell the state of the bed from the pics but for £300 who cares? Already converted to single phase which is good for me. I couldn't get anything bigger into my workshop (narrow alleyway) and I didn't want a flimsy bench-top mill.
      Peter - novice home machinist, modern motorcycle enthusiast.

      Denford Viceroy 280 Synchro (11 x 24)
      Herbert 0V adapted to R8 by 'Sir John'.
      Monarch 10EE 1942

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      • #4
        It bears a passing resemblence to the Millrite or Powermatic mill sold over here. It was about 2/3 the size of a Bridgeport, but a good solid machine.

        Most of these mills are simple enough that any necessary repairs are easily accomplished. It looks like a good machine. There was a thread here a couple of days ago about Herbert collet availability.
        Jim H.

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        • #5
          Stopped-by to see the guy today to arrange pickup. I took a look over the machine - and I'm very happy. The table is un-marked, which I think it astonishing for a 1960's/70's machine. Gave the table a good tug about and I can't detect any slop at all in any direction. It's smaller than the pics suggest, standing about 5'10" which pleased me as I particularly wanted a smaller machine. The size is about perfect.

          When I get it home I'll take some good quality pics and do a report, if anyone's interested. If anyone has any literature or info on these machines I would be VERY grateful - so far I can't even find what decade it was made.





          Peter - novice home machinist, modern motorcycle enthusiast.

          Denford Viceroy 280 Synchro (11 x 24)
          Herbert 0V adapted to R8 by 'Sir John'.
          Monarch 10EE 1942

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          • #6
            Check what model you have, manual here for an 0V, pricey but at least he's got it.

            http://www.lathes.co.uk/manuals/

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            • #7
              you beat me to it limey


              Well heres a book on alfred herberts history

              http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=k...e+Tool#PPR7,M1

              is it called herbert OV milling machine or Dirty-Herbert

              http://www.theengineersemporium.co.u.../MANUALSH.HTML £20
              Last edited by aboard_epsilon; 01-17-2009, 05:52 PM.

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              • #8
                Price is getting better.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Limy Sami
                  Price is getting better.
                  Indeed. Being fitted with two new single-phase motors helps. They would have been £100 themselves, and the guy used proper switches & contacts too, sealed in waterproof boxes. All I'm going to do there is replace the power cord with armoured cable to run to the consumer unit.
                  Peter - novice home machinist, modern motorcycle enthusiast.

                  Denford Viceroy 280 Synchro (11 x 24)
                  Herbert 0V adapted to R8 by 'Sir John'.
                  Monarch 10EE 1942

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