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    Rather than maybe hi-jack the thread by Knifemaker...
    What are your opinions of this lathe from Grizzly?

    http://grizzlyindustrial.com/product...al-Lathe/G0602

    Do you guys think this is substantially better than the 9 X 20 or not really much different.
    Do you know if I can do (and will benefit from) the same mods and tweaks to the G0602 that a lot of folks have done to their 9 X 20 lathes?
    I haven't checked yet today but as of last week HF did not have any of their 9 X 20 in the warehouse and did not know when the next shipment would be in, maybe 2 to 3 months they said.

    I'm thinking that I will get the G0602 with the free shipping and the included 4 jaw chuck.
    I just want to work on small air powered engine models for a while, mostly aluminum and brass w/ some steel. Graduating to maybe some IC or live steam eventually.

    Thanks much,
    Gerry

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    HF is getting hard to buy big stuff from - they are starting to not stock any of the big tools and that technically kills off use of the famed 20% coupon. Although a friendly store manager can still make it happen. I would consider the 10x22 as a 9x20 with a hair more swing and better paint. It also has better accessories than you will get with the HF 9x20. The compound looks the same and will probably want the same tweaks we-un's do the the 9x20. 4 bolt clamp, better tool post, etc. I like my HF 9x20 and adding the AXA100 tool post and a 4 bolt clamp made it much, much better. The chuck runs true out of the box. The most frustrating thing that I haven't had time to fix is the [email protected]#$#@ backlash adjustment on the compound dials. It's bound up or slop, no real in-between. The compound has some slide issues. I made some brass jibs for mine and that helped some, but the cross slide still binds up in spots. The 11x26 is the same IMO, but at almost 600 lbs might be the best of the three because of mass - but will still want the tweaks. Griz stuff might have better gibs and compound operation. None of the three small ones have a tumbler reverse and you'll want that. That is my next upgrade project for mine.
    Last edited by Falcon67; 07-13-2009, 11:50 AM.
    Chris
    Merkel, Tx
    http://raceabilene.com/kelly/hotrod

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    • #3
      Thanks Chris.
      Gerry

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      • #4
        Looks like all the smaller lathes have free shipping right now - good deal on that.
        Chris
        Merkel, Tx
        http://raceabilene.com/kelly/hotrod

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        • #5
          Gerry I have a 10x22 lathe very similar to the one you are looking at. Actually it is the same lathe but with a different name on it instead of Grizzly.
          I have had the machine for over six years now and find it quite capable of excellent work and have been very pleased with it overall. Having used 9x20's I must say it is literally twice the machine.

          Having said that I must add it is far from perfect. It does not have a slow enough spindle speed as it comes. Fixed that with a 3ph motor and a VFD...I don't know why all lathes aren't equipped this way, big improvement in usability. No power cross feed. Not a big deal for me, have always had excellent finish doing it manually. Not a factor for me but you may not like the fact it's not available. Also you have to change gears for threading. Again, although I enjoy threading, especially since adding the VFD, I don't do it everyday so it doesn't bother me when I have to set the machine up for cutting threads. I wish it would have a separate feed screw instead of relying on the same leadsrew to feed and thread, but in all honesty in the six years of steady use it hasn't become an issue yet, I just make sure that the half nuts are adjusted properly and I keep the lead screw as clean as I can without being anal about. Like the 9x20 lathes the compound area needs help in the form of a solid 4-bolt clamp, but it's a good starter project that will pay huge dividends in the form of tool post stability.
          Overall I have been very happy with it, the mass of the machine compared to the 9x20 class of machines is significant, as is the fact that it has a 1" spindle bore, MT4 headstock taper and MT3 tailstock taper and a pretty fair selection of threading options.

          Perfect machine? Far from it, but then I'm sure if I spend about $20-25,000 on a used Hardinge HLV of about the same size I could find shortcomings in it as well. But I'll never know will I.

          Like everyone says...spend as much if not more than you can afford, you'll always grow into a bigger machine...oh, and don't forget to set a little aside for tooling.
          Home, down in the valley behind the Red Angus
          Bad Decisions Make Good Stories​

          Location: British Columbia

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          • #6
            Thanks Willy.
            Gerry

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            • #7
              Thanks for not hi-jacking my thread. And, thanks for asking about this model. At a $125 more than the 9x19 G4000, does appear to be a lot more machine. I will be following this thread with interest.
              Jacque
              Eagon Leather & Knives

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TexasKnifeMaker
                Thanks for not hi-jacking my thread. And, thanks for asking about this model. At a $125 more than the 9x19 G4000, does appear to be a lot more machine. I will be following this thread with interest.
                Jacque
                You're welcome Jacque.
                I have been looking at this lathe and the HF 9X20 since before last Christmas.
                I have the money now but HF doesn't have the lathe... so I guess my mind is made up, I'm going to order the G0602 from Griz today. Won't have as much left over for tooling right away, I can still get the QCP from Little Machine Shop but that's about it for awhile. I can still keep myself busy with it, installation, clean up and some of the recommended mods.
                If you havn't already checked it out you should join the Yahoo group "9X20 lathe" Tons of good info and reading in their files section.
                Gerry

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                • #9
                  I have no experience with the lathe, nor do I own a lathe, but am looking to buy. I will say that so far, the more mass a lathe has, the better off you will be.
                  Tim

                  Knows a little about many trades.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by lotus23bsr
                    You're welcome Jacque.
                    I have been looking at this lathe and the HF 9X20 since before last Christmas.
                    I have the money now but HF doesn't have the lathe... so I guess my mind is made up, I'm going to order the G0602 from Griz today. Won't have as much left over for tooling right away, I can still get the QCP from Little Machine Shop but that's about it for awhile. I can still keep myself busy with it, installation, clean up and some of the recommended mods.
                    If you havn't already checked it out you should join the Yahoo group "9X20 lathe" Tons of good info and reading in their files section.
                    Gerry
                    Not to take food from LMS, but if you watch Enco you can get a Phase II QCT for around $99 - sometimes with free shipping when they run the $50 free ship promotion. They have gone up $10 - the Series 100 like I have is right now on sale for $98.95. With Enco's current promotion, buy a couple of tooling blanks and you'll get the free shipping. Enco #505-2253 piston type. You'll have to make an adapter to use it on the 9x20 but it's not a hard thing. I buy most stuff from LMS - tool blanks, etc. Good stuff, easy to buy from and quick ship. Seem like nice folks. Dollar is a dollar though.
                    Chris
                    Merkel, Tx
                    http://raceabilene.com/kelly/hotrod

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the heads up on the QCTP Chris.
                      I was about ready to go to LMS and order the AXA (series 100) for $155.00 plus shipping.
                      I'll check out Enco and save a few dollars.
                      Thanks again,
                      Gerry

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                      • #12
                        That coupon post might get you another 10% off. Such a deal!
                        Chris
                        Merkel, Tx
                        http://raceabilene.com/kelly/hotrod

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                        • #13
                          Grizz 602

                          I also have a 602 and I think it is a good machine as already stated a slower speed would help but a hand crank does for me when threading to a shoulder.
                          It takes QCTP post with no modifacations. I did a bit of grinding on the steady rest to get the carriage to go a closer (no big deal). It also takes 6" chuck with no problems. It does an amazing amount of work for a small lathe

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                          • #14
                            Thanks for the input Bill.

                            @ Chris, I'm on my way to Enco right now

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                            • #15
                              It's both bigger and heavier than the 9x20 and the topslide clamp appears to be a better design than the 9x20.

                              Also the quick change gearbox design is better.
                              I just need one more tool,just one!

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